Effective Screens? Really?

[PntherPryd]

Since when did we learn to run an effective screen pass? Not only screens but several times the play call took advantage of an aggressive defense with a quick pass to the vacated zone.

Sorry if I am duplicating discussion because I wasn't around during the game but have not seen this in threads.

Is the difference Matt Moore? Is it just because we were playing an aggressive defense that these plays were in the game plan?

I liked it and have no doubt it opened up many more plays both pass and run.

[Gscottnc5]

There Defense was daring Matt to throw and they brought the pressure and the best way to burn a team like that is draw them in and dump a screen from the overloaded side which is typically very effective in keeping a defense honest. If the Giants are as aggressive this Sunday, I would expect some screens to the backs and smitty.

What I liked alot was that smitty was getting thrown too underneath and was making things happen. We have not seen that alot with Delhomme and Smitty this year

[Fiz]

there's a lot of reasons why

they're actually incredibly hard plays to execute well and it takes a QB with

A. maneuverability

B. nerves of steel

C. touch

on top of a very talented offensive line that can sell it and block downfield, wrs that can sell it, and well...you get the point. on top of jake being pretty much the worst prototypical screen qb in the world, a lot can go wrong when you run them.

fox has always thought they weren't worth the risk. now that we're so far out, fug it, run that screen poo

[Gscottnc5]

there's a lot of reasons why

they're actually incredibly hard plays to execute well and it takes a QB with

A. maneuverability

B. nerves of steel

C. touch

on top of a very talented offensive line that can sell it and block downfield, wrs that can sell it, and well...you get the point. on top of jake being pretty much the worst prototypical screen qb in the world, a lot can go wrong when you run them.

fox has always thought they weren't worth the risk. now that we're so far out, f**k it, run that screen poo

I agree with ^^^^^

[PntherPryd]

I also agree with your points but the comment about Fox being afraid to run them is what I was really going for with this thread. I've always found it ridiculous that the Panthers never use the screen pass to keep defenses honest, instead relying on gimmicks like that quick toss to Smith.

We have a talented offensive line, even with two pro bowl LT's on IR. We have WR's willing and able to block and we have an offensive coordinator not afraid to call a screen with Matt Moore at the controls.

The interceptions were enough to damn Jake as a starter imo, but to me, the success with this particular play last night cements his fate.

[Sultan33g]

jake being pretty much the worst prototypical screen qb in the world

this

[JJT]

First thing I noticed, too. Also liked how Matt Moore seemed to be making quick decisions, the operative word being "decisions."

[Snake]

There Defense was daring Matt to throw and they brought the pressure and the best way to burn a team like that is draw them in and dump a screen from the overloaded side which is typically very effective in keeping a defense honest. If the Giants are as aggressive this Sunday, I would expect some screens to the backs and smitty.

What I liked alot was that smitty was getting thrown too underneath and was making things happen. We have not seen that alot with Delhomme and Smitty this year

Prob because Delhomme was so poor with his placement of the ball he could not hit him in the window.

[Gscottnc5]

First thing I noticed, too. Also liked how Matt Moore seemed to be making quick decisions, the operative word being "decisions."

I saw this too. And he does run the screen pretty well. Seems he can throw a ball with a little touch.

Now all he needs to do is control the balls he sails. I don't know if it is his nerves or confidence in his decisions or if it's his mechanics. Based on the Vikings game it looked to be more nerves and confidence. He seemed to settle down a little as the game went on

I hope he plays well the rest of the year as I would like to see a kid like him do well.

[KARASMATIC444]

Its because of me. prior to this year i never was able to run a screen play in Madden correctly, now this year im killing people with them....i know that sounds like an odd coincidence but i have been playing madden just as long as john fox was the panthers coach.............and i am also on the hotseat with myself so i said f**ket and benched jake ....................Matt moore came in and we stopped alowing wine in the state of nc and sent all of the cheeze home and now i can do what i like while im in the game so i run around naked alot...................alot...and then that is a big advantage when running a screen, as a m atter of fact i dont suggest running a screen unless there is some sort of steaking involved.............

[err456]

Fox was afraid Jake would over throw the screens

[pantherfan81]

this

Not to go off topic but I just noticed in your avatar those chicks have beers on them. I was too busy staring at their ass.

.....but yeah screens are great when they work!

[Munkey]

Like I said in the other topic about screens: We always tried, but Jake is terrible at selling anything. He's too jumpy and antsy. Play actions that Jake does look pathetic and predictable. Screen is no different, you have to really sell like you're going to be passing and Jake never did that, he would start looking right away if the person for the screen would be open or not.

[Sultan33g]

Not to go off topic but I just noticed in your avatar those chicks have beers on them. I was too busy staring at their ass.

.....!

You can't go wrong with that combo