So Delhomme is as good as gone now, right?

[King Taharqa]

Our fair weather and spoiled fanbase has set expectations way too high.

I disagree. Our spoiled franchise has worked hard to erase expectations instead of working hard towards winning. I expect & demand a winner. In 15 years of business, the Carolina Panthers are not that. I have every right to be dissapointed with that. The object of the game is to win, and your goal should be the Super Bowl EVERY year. But we can crawl before we walk and Ill say the goal should be back to back winning seasons.

[Sloth]

Our expansion brother Jaguars envy our franchise's success.

Jags/Panthers wins since inception:

118/109

Not counting this year which would make it worse.

We've won 6 playoff games, Jags have won 5.

Man, we just blow them outta the water. What a sad franchise.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Panther Super Bowl appearances: 1

Jaguar Super Bowl appearances: 0

Panther blackouts post-Clemson: 0

Jaguar blackouts: Eleventy billion

Estimated value of the Panthers franchise is much higher than the Jaguars as well.

[AceMan]

i think fox has a better shot of getting canned than delhomme.

richardson played football, he knows very well that Players get in a funk.

Delhomme is not in a funk. He is DONE!!!!

It's funny when people compare our franchise to other ones such as the Texans, Jaguars, and Browns....why not the Patriots or Steelers? Didn't we want to model our franchise after the Steelers?

Get that mediocre thinking out of here! I can't believe we still have fans that think like that. Delhomme is finished!

"We win every other season, but at least we're not the Raiders/Browns/etc." WTF?! Strive higher than that guys...

[grateflday]

NFL facts: Bad seasons happen. Players have bad years. Good coaches will keep their jobs.

Main thing: It's not easy winning in the NFL and the Panthers are not yet a franchise ready to have several winning seasons in a row. Still need to work towards building traditions and a winning culture. I think Fox is the best guy to get this done without having to do a massive rebuilding--which could send us the other direction.

That being said, we have already surpassed many long-time franchises. Our expansion brother Jaguars envy our franchise's success. The Texans/Browns are not even close and would love to be in our situation. Our fair weather and spoiled fanbase has set expectations way too high.

So what are you suggesting? We should be happy with being better than the worst but not as good and consistent as the best? Be happy with mediocrity?

3 winning seasons in the past 7 (if you include this year) + John Fox's brand of football is not good enough for me. It is time to move on.

[Sloth]

Panther Super Bowl appearances: 1

Jaguar Super Bowl appearances: 0

Panther blackouts post-Clemson: 0

Jaguar blackouts: Eleventy billion

Estimated value of the Panthers franchise is much higher than the Jaguars as well.

Yep, we lost a Superbowl 6 years ago. That changes everything.

Jags as a team and franchise have very little to do with the blackouts, that's location. Honestly, the only reason the Panthers never risk a blackout is PSLs. Smart move there.

Jags as a team/franchise have been more successful than we have, and with having to play the Colts and Titans twice every season.

[falconlynx]

Jags/Panthers wins since inception:

118/109

Not counting this year which would make it worse.

We've won 6 playoff games, Jags have won 5.

Man, we just blow them outta the water. What a sad franchise.

Great point, that one extra win they have over us this year really makes a difference.

The Jaguars had strong initial success like us, but they have been drastically different since the 2000 decade began (1-2 playoffs, no conference championship appearances). They have not had back to back winning seasons since Coughlin was around. Their attendance is horrible and they will be out of Jacksonville as soon as possible.

[falconlynx]

Delhomme is not in a funk. He is DONE!!!!

It's funny when people compare our franchise to other ones such as the Texans, Jaguars, and Browns....why not the Patriots or Steelers? Didn't we want to model our franchise after the Steelers?

Get that mediocre thinking out of here! I can't believe we still have fans that think like that. Delhomme is finished!

"We win every other season, but at least we're not the Raiders/Browns/etc." WTF?! Strive higher than that guys...

We get compared to the Browns, Texans, and Jaguars because we are all recent expansion teams playing in a league full of history and teams with generations of long-time fan bases.

[Kakarot]

Delhomme is not in a funk. He is DONE!!!!

It's funny when people compare our franchise to other ones such as the Texans, Jaguars, and Browns....why not the Patriots or Steelers? Didn't we want to model our franchise after the Steelers?

Get that mediocre thinking out of here! I can't believe we still have fans that think like that. Delhomme is finished!

"We win every other season, but at least we're not the Raiders/Browns/etc." WTF?! Strive higher than that guys...

Yes @ the bold! I agree with all of this! Thats the problem with a good portion of our fanbase, and the higher ups in the organization. It feels like they are content with mediocrity.

and haha at Jake being in a funk . He's been done for awhile

[venom]

Personally, I don't even see Delhomme as a competent backup. The contract extension was the stupidest idea since allowing g5jamz, speed, and venom to register accounts here.

oh c'mon now. you can leave that talk for the tinderbox.

[venom]

there are zero positive aspects to delhomme remaining with this team. period. HE SUCKS. there's no arguing with that.

[Tank]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8153908e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

If next year is a salary cap year he will be back it looks like.

He seems to think the decision would be his to catch on with another team if cut by the Panthers. He want play another down in the NFL unless it is with the Panthers.

[carpanfan96]

It will cost us 13 million to cut him. So, I wouldn't be surprised to see him still be a Panther next year.

[MaineManPanther]

Are you sure there's heat from the FO? A big part of our FO (Hurney) gave Delhomme the extension and has backed him.

Jake has been costing us games since the season started (and killed our playoff run last year), yet was the starter until it didn't matter. They didn't realize how dumb that was at the time.

Id have imagine there will be if the Jake starts next year.. Regarldess of who backed them, Jake is done. They know that now. There would be no logical reason to have him start besides big injuries. I higly doubt the FO will allow Fox to continue if Fox plans on Jake starting. Which I don't think he woul do.