Ranking Cornerbacks: Where does Gamble stand?

[mrmiyagii]

Panthers passing defense finished 4th in the league according to NFL website, and also we have not allowed many big plays against the opposing teams.

So I was wondering, where would you rank Gamble among the NFL Conerbacks today?

here's my top 10 list.

1. Nnamdi

2. Charles Woodson (some may argue that this is too high, but he's a playermaker at his position)

3. Champ Bailey

4. Darrelle Revis

5. Sheldon Brown (I'm ranking him higher than Asante because I think Asante is bit overrated)

6. Asante Samule (pretty consistent when it comes to stats)

7. Chris Gamble

8. Al Harris

9. Ike Taylor

10. Antoine Winfield

Honorable Mention

Johnathan Joseph (CIN) - this kid can ball

Corey Webster (NYG) - finished with great season this year, probably because of Giants solid pass rush, I just need to see more of him to put him on my list

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (ARI) - Personally I kind of think he's overrated too but I like him better than his brother.

Should never be mentioned in the list

Deangelo Hall

Cortland Finnegan

Antonio Cromartie

I know I kind of went over board with this thread, because it was suppose to be about Gamble but I am bored and panthers don't play till next season so...

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

[Swarly]

He's not an elite corner(yet) but he's definitely one of the better in the league. Way I see it is Revis/Woodson/Bailey/Asomugha/Bailey are on a whole different level than all the other corners in the league, and Gamble is just under them.

[Dpantherman]

FOR THIS YEAR::

Bailey is too high. His best years are behind him.

1. Darrel Revis, Ndami, Woodson

2. Samuel

3. Gamble

4. Talib

5. Mike jenkins

6. Rodgers-Cromartie

7. Joseph

8. Hall

9. Bailey

10. Brown

[rico6]

Top 10

No way in hell is Nmadi Number One, Revis has damn near redefined the corner position.

It's shocking how we had the choices between he and Beason.

That draft was fuging loaded.

[Lout]

#1 Revis (clear cut)

#2 Woodson

#3 Nnamdi

#4 Samuel

#5 Gamble

#6 Rodgers-Cromartie

#7 Bailey

#8 Leon hall

#9 Corey Webster

#10 Winfield

[Snake]

Darrel Revis Im still on the fence about. No doubt he is a good CB but I think he need about two more years before we say he is one of the best. CBs are hard to rate on stats also. IMO Charles Woodson would prob be the best CB in the league because of his years of good play. I mean at his age its hard to find a better shutdown CB. Gamble has IMO is a top 5 CB. Its too bad he plays in a zone system.

[beastson]

You also have to look at schemes. They move Woodson all over the field

[Snake]

You also have to look at schemes. They move Woodson all over the field

I try not to get too much into that cause then you can say well there Schedule and the other CB cross from them comes into play. I like to look at the big picture. Right now I can call Woodson one of the best because he has done it for years and with different teams. Also I can call Gamble a top 5 because he has played long enough to get the big picture. There will always be the best CB of the year award. Then everyone will forgets about him the next year when he falls off. People forget there was a year Gamble and Lucas were considered 2 of the best CBs in the league.

[Urrymonster]

Here are some stats for you all!!!

Rankings (as of week 16)

To qualify, defensive backs must have played in at least 75% of their defenses snaps.

Thrown At:

1. Nnamdi Asomugha - 28 in 417 passing snaps

2. Drayton Florence - 62 in 416 passing snaps

3. Asante Samuel - 64 in 531 pasing attempts

4. Sean Smith - 65 in 498 passing attempts

5. Terrell Thomas - 66 in 494 passing attempts

Percentage Caught:

1. Darrelle Revis - 37.7%

2. Brandon McDonald - 45.5%

3. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - 50.4%

4. Leon Hall - 50.5%

5. Andre Goodman - 50.6%

Passes Defended:

1. Darrelle Revis - 23

2. Dominique-Rodgers Cromartie - 16

3. Leon Hall - 15

4. Jonathon Joseph - 14

4. Brandon Carr - 14

QB Rating Given Up:

1. Darrelle Revis - 32.3

2. Leon Hall - 52.4

3. Charles Woodson - 54.6

4. Cortlan Finnegan - 55.8

5. Mike Jenkins - 56.1

Incidently Revis has been targeted a whopping 106 times. Normally a high number would suggested he is doing something wrong, yet his numbers are stunning.

Even more stunning is how little Nnamdi is thrown at. It would appear that the only times QBs look his way, it is due to a blown coverage or something designed to exploit him as the results are pretty good. However in 417 passing snaps he has given up only 246 yards...

I feel Gamble and Marshall (and other predominantly zone CBs) are at a disadvantage as they are asked to not give up the big play rather than go out and play aggressive. Their numbers could be skewed either way in a man based defense.

Here are there respective stats

Gamble

Thrown at - 70

Completion % - 71.4

PD's - 6

QB Rating - 85.4

Marshall

Thrown at - 86

Completion % - 66.3

PD's - 3

QB Rating - 70.3

[Guild]

Revis is a master at controlling the receiver coming off the LoS. Asomugha is probably better in most other aspects, but Revis drastically limits the throws that can come his way because the receiver's route timing is almost guaranteed to be thrown off.

Asomugha's physical talents limit throws his way for another reason. Fear.

IMO

[beastson]

Like I said, you have to look at scheme

I mean if you was to put Woodson mainly on one receiver for a whole game, say like a Wayne with Manning, he'll get burned. You can bet that. He might make some plays, but he'll give up some yardage one on one. But Woodson be all over from outside, to slot, to safety

[Peppers90 NC]

It's so hard to get these numbers, especially when playing zone. We play so much zone, keeping the wr in front of our defender is the reason why the completion % is so high. Not sure how they configure this, say if the defender is playing zone, are these numbers accurate. I know Revis for instance, he plays man pretty much all game which means he plays the ball more and can press/jam. It didnt seem too often Gamble was thrown at tho.

[Jrock3016]

Throw the numbers out and tell who you think is the best

[Urrymonster]

Throw the numbers out and tell who you think is the best

You have to look at numbers to some degree, unless you watch every single cornerback play repeatedly. Otherwise you are literally basing your opinions off the media and the famous, which is basically the Pro Bowl. Or you just look at Madden ratings...

To be objective, you need to look at the objective things. Statistics are the only things that are.