Athletic article on GM candidates

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Marty Hurney sucks.  But the saddest part is, we could literally upgrade by re-hiring him as GM and Ron Rivera as HC lmao.  How far we have fallen.

we could bring back Ron, Marty and Cam Newton all for 1 season....and win more games than we did this year.   And that's just Cam playing straight read option with Chubba and never passing. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, it is pretty useless to talk to me and present an argument that Scott Fitterer should remain employed in Carolina.  I don't disagree with that.   Because it's silly, really. 

So again, what really good GM.....would want to take a job where the really bad GM remains and is retaining a bulk of what is his job? I've yet to here the argument on that.  I have heard how sweet Scott Fitterer is though. 

The only thing I've ever truly seen you argue for is the idea that you know things. Unfortunately, that argument falls apart when you actually talk about them

Now, do you want to actually look at any of the candidates mentioned here or just continue your usual MO of useless b-tching?

Edited January 2, 2024 by Mr. Scot

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, it is pretty useless to talk to me and present an argument that Scott Fitterer should remain employed in Carolina.  I don't disagree with that.   Because it's silly, really. 

So again, what really good GM.....would want to take a job where the really bad GM remains and is retaining a bulk of what is his job? I've yet to here the argument on that.  I have heard how sweet Scott Fitterer is though. 

 

but casillas, (a random huddler) has 2 not 1 but 2 sources. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Is being well liked in arguably the worst front office in football something that should be valued?

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

Is being well liked in arguably the worst front office in football something that should be valued?

but casillas has 2 motherfuging sources bro

[Mr. Scot]

Wasn't there previously a sticky post where the mods said they were going to crack down on people sh-tting up threads rather than sticking to the actual topic?

Has that emphasis gone by the wayside now?

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The only thing I've ever truly seen you argue for is the idea that you know things. Unfortunately, that argument falls apart when you actually talk about them

Now, do you want to actually look at any of the candidates mentioned here or just continue your usual MO of useless b-tching?

So....you have no argument.  Gotcha.  You could of just said that.  It's less words. 

I knew Miles Sanders was a bad add and not as billed.  I talked about that a lot. 

I knew the WR corps Scott put together wasn't good enough.  I talked about that a lot. 

I knew the parts we put together didn't fit. I talked about that a lot. 

I knew Bryce was going to play small ball all year, slow WRs and opposing defense would eat it up and sit on our pass game. I talked about that a lot. 

I knew Scott Fitterer was a bad GM and wanted him gone a year ago.  I talked about that a lot. 

Of course, I talked about all that before week 1 ever kicked off. 

Maybe I'm just a lucky guesser.  Which could be true. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Is being well liked in arguably the worst front office in football something that should be valued?

As mentioned, there's way more to the GM job than just personnel and scouting.

What Casillas suggested could happen would do two things...

1) Remove Fitterer from all personnel decisions

2) Free up a new GM to concentrate on personnel without having to worry about the other stuff

That doesn't necessarily sound like a bad idea to me, but you still have to deal with Fitterer being involved in the chicanery that helped get Frank Reich fired.

That, to me, is the tricky part.

[Panthercougar68]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The article doesn't mention Borgonzi but does talk about Brandt Tilis, and it's worth noting that he interviewed with us the last time.

Mind you, the emphasis for this article is mostly on underrated candidates, the people who aren't getting talked about as much.

Borgonzi apparently interviewed twice with us so they saw something they liked but Tilis would be interesting too. I know there isn’t appeal for the Panthers spot if it were to be open but I’m hoping we find someone like Brandon Beane who is great just not known at the moment. 
 

I worry about a retread GM however…

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

So....you have no argument.  Gotcha.  You could of just said that.  It's less words. 

I knew Miles Sanders was a bad add and not as billed.  I talked about that a lot. 

I knew the WR corps Scott put together wasn't good enough.  I talked about that a lot. 

I knew the parts we put together didn't fit. I talked about that a lot. 

I knew Bryce was going to play small ball all year, slow WRs and opposing defense would eat it up and sit on our pass game. I talked about that a lot. 

I knew Scott Fitterer was a bad GM and wanted him gone a year ago.  I talked about that a lot. 

Of course, I talked about all that before week 1 ever kicked off. 

Maybe I'm just a lucky guesser.  Which could be true. 

Or you're a guy who takes credit for stuff other people say, while also reframing arguments of those you debate so that they appear to say what they actually didn't, which I've seen some evidence of.

Of course, the next part of your MO is to accuse people of things what you actually do, which I'm guessing probably comes next.

Edited January 2, 2024 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

Borgonzi apparently interviewed twice with us so they saw something they liked but Tilis would be interesting too. I know there isn’t appeal for the Panthers spot if it were to be open but I’m hoping we find someone like Brandon Beane who is great just not known at the moment. 
 

I worry about a retread GM however…

Borgonzi interviewed? I don't remember seeing that.

I know Tilis did but I thought it was only once.

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Borgonzi interviewed? I don't remember seeing that.

I know Tilis did but I thought it was only once.

He apparently did and no one knew lol I have to go dig up the tweet.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wasn't there previously a sticky post where the mods said they were going to crack down on people sh-tting up threads rather than sticking to the actual topic?

Has that emphasis gone by the wayside now?

Noted.  OP was off to a good start about finding a new GM.  Then folks started sh-tting it up by talking about how actually Scott Fitterer should actually just retain most of his duties as GM.  Which really derails the whole new GM talk. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Noted.  OP was off to a good start about finding a new GM.  Then folks started sh-tting it up by talking about how actually Scott Fitterer should actually just retain most of his duties as GM.  Which really derails the whole new GM talk. 

The idea was never that Fitterer would stay as a GM co-GM. It was that he'd take an alternate position away from the personnel duties.

The fact that you couldn't comprehend that is where the issues started.

Apparently, Fitterer's name makes you emotional

Edited January 2, 2024 by Mr. Scot