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42 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I haven't made any point but that "elite" is very much a matter of definition---it's subjective. 

Dak has been good throughout his career, and last season was one of his best. Of course he faltered in the playoffs, but so did several QBs. So if you're going to ding him, you must ding them all, except one. There is only one truly elite QB in the league, and we all know who he is.

Dak is a franchise QB. Matt Ryan was one as well. Palmer was as well before he got injured. 

You seem to be suggesting that you can only win a chip with an elite QB. I say that you can win one without one. It's a team sport. 

The fact is, Dak's career passer rating and career QBR are in the good territory, as a I've stated. If you look at his last season, they were more than good. QBs with lesser ratings than Prescott have led their teams to a chip.  

Suggesting that most elite QBs will take a team bereft of a line and weapons to a chip doesn't make sense. It just doesn't. Mahomes and Brady are really the only ones that came close to that, and parts of their teams were elite if not most of their teams. Maybe Burrow can do it, but he's suffered some injuries that have directly affected his play and taken the shine off. You need at least a good team and a good QB. This pretty much shows itself every year. 

 

Well my personal benchmark for an elite QB is "are you elevating your team or are they elevating you?" 

Dak doesn't do that.

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22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well my personal benchmark for an elite QB is "are you elevating your team or are they elevating you?" 

Dak doesn't do that.

I do think Dak does that. Some of the guys that he has played with definitely benefitted from him getting them the ball. It's not like he's played with a bunch of elite weapons. I mean, as a young QB, he played with an old Dez and and old Witten. He played with Amari Cooper and Cee Dee for a year. Then it was basically just Lamb and Zeke before he aged out. 

A good O-line is to be expected. Any QB should be able to succeed behind an excellent line. Some do, some don't. Dak obviously excelled. 

I hate the Cowboys, and Dak hasn't been clutch during playoff time, but their failures in the postseason haven't been 100 percent on him.

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6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I do think Dak does that. Some of the guys that he has played with definitely benefitted from him getting them the ball. It's not like he's played with a bunch of elite weapons. I mean, as a young QB, he played with an old Dez and and old Witten. He played with Amari Cooper and Cee Dee for a year. Then it was basically just Lamb and Zeke before he aged out. 

A good O-line is to be expected. Any QB should be able to succeed behind an excellent line. Some do, some don't. Dak obviously excelled. 

I hate the Cowboys, and Dak hasn't been clutch during playoff time, but their failures in the postseason haven't been 100 percent on him.

I mean, it is pretty obvious you are just pining for any above average QB. I get it. Basically the fan version of "battered QB syndrome." 

Pine after all the non-game changing QB's you want, homie. I ain't stopping you.

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44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, it is pretty obvious you are just pining for any above average QB. I get it. Basically the fan version of "battered QB syndrome." 

Pine after all the non-game changing QB's you want, homie. I ain't stopping you.

You can say "average" all you like. The stats simply do not support that. They don't in really any measure. 

I don't even think we will get Dak or necessarily even be interested. But you keep pining after all the unicorns that you think exist.

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13 minutes ago, TD alt said:

You can say "average" all you like. The stats simply do not support that. They don't in really any measure. 

I don't even think we will get Dak or necessarily even be interested. But you keep pining after all the unicorns that you think exist.

Oh the unicorns exist. They have a pile of rings.

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