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So… will it be Dalton or Plummer?

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2 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Sunk cost. Trying to get our money's worth out of a guy we traded so much for. 

It really wouldn't surprise me if it was revealed that Tepper was forcing Canales to start him. 

 

I'd respect Tepper a million times more if he was forcing them to play Bryce right now.

It would be the first time in YEARS that we were playing the long game as opposed to looking for the quick fix

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Just now, Buster Bryce said:

Bullshit. The players on offense are good .. Bryce Young drags everyone down.

They are?

Who?

Dionte Johnson?  The player who the team widely regarded as the best at identifying WR talent over the last couple decades decided to give up on and trade him for a player we were going to cut anyways?

Mingo or Legette who haven't lived up to their draft expectations?

Hubbard or Sanders? LOL

Thielen is our best player on offense and he's on the wrong side of 30 with only a year or so left of being a useful player.

Yes Bryces drags everyone down, but he's dragging down the worst roster in the league to just being worse, even with a halfway competent QB, we have a garbage roster right now.  Benching Bryce doesn't fix that, it just hurts out draft position to fix the problems in the future.

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

They are?

Who?

Dionte Johnson?  The player who the team widely regarded as the best at identifying WR talent over the last couple decades decided to give up on and trade him for a player we were going to cut anyways?

Mingo or Legette who haven't lived up to their draft expectations?

Hubbard or Sanders? LOL

Thielen is our best player on offense and he's on the wrong side of 30 with only a year or so left of being a useful player.

Yes Bryces drags everyone down, but he's dragging down the worst roster in the league to just being worse, even with a halfway competent QB, we have a garbage roster right now.  Benching Bryce doesn't fix that, it just hurts out draft position to fix the problems in the future.

You can't properly evaluate any of these players with Bryce at QB. 

You can't. 

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

They are?

Who?

Dionte Johnson?  The player who the team widely regarded as the best at identifying WR talent over the last couple decades decided to give up on and trade him for a player we were going to cut anyways?

Mingo or Legette who haven't lived up to their draft expectations?

Hubbard or Sanders? LOL

Thielen is our best player on offense and he's on the wrong side of 30 with only a year or so left of being a useful player.

Yes Bryces drags everyone down, but he's dragging down the worst roster in the league to just being worse, even with a halfway competent QB, we have a garbage roster right now.  Benching Bryce doesn't fix that, it just hurts out draft position to fix the problems in the future.

You can't ytell because Young is THE worst QB in NFL history

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Just now, Kuhndog94 said:

You can't properly evaluate any of these players with Bryce at QB. 

You can't. 

Bryce at QB isn't keeping our WRs from creating even an inch of separation

Bryce at QB isn't making our OL act like turnstiles to allow pass rushers through.

Replacing Bryce with Dalton doesn't fix our issues, the only thing it can do is hurt our draft position.

We've spent years trying to patch the holes of a sinking boat instead of just actually trying to do a real re-build.  Every year we keep trying to patch that sinking ship instead of just building a new one, we set ourselves back even further.

This is the worst franchise in the NFL since the mid 2000's Lions, it's that bad right now.  Wanting to win some meaningless games is just dumb.

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