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Dan Morgan is an awful GM

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The Panthers had no leverage, so they shouldn't have handed him away for free. They gave him away for an embarrassing return. Just like McCaffrey. Just like Burns. There's also the inconvenient truth that the Panthers turned the Bears into a playoff contender with one trade.

Those things happened, whether we want to pretend they did or not.

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The Panthers had no leverage, so they shouldn't have handed him away for free. They gave him away for an embarrassing return. Just like McCaffrey. Just like Burns. There's also the inconvenient truth that the Panthers turned the Bears into a playoff contender with one trade.

Those things happened, whether we want to pretend they did or not.

There is another front office on tape laughing at his incompetence, I mean for fugs sake what other evidence do you need he is in over his head and it continues to show

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I couldnt possibly imagine thinking that I have to defend this trainwreck of a GM with everything already know about him.

Seriously, it’s his first year at GM, what has he done wrong? 

Johnson trade and the Burns trades needed to happen and we just didn’t have any leverage. We got $61m in dead cap that he inherited. 
 

So let’s hear it?

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Seriously, it’s his first year at GM, what has he done wrong? 

Johnson trade and the Burns trades needed to happen and we just didn’t have any leverage. We got $61m in dead cap that he inherited. 
 

So let’s hear it?

so he gets a complete pass on being fitts right hand man?    LOLOLOL man if you think that then there is no need to keep debating Morgan.    Even given a free pass he has stunk up the joint, then couple the past decisions and its dumbfounding that he was hired to start with

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so he gets a complete pass on being fitts right hand man?    LOLOLOL man if you think that then there is no need to keep debating Morgan.    Even given a free pass he has stunk up the joint, then couple the past decisions and its dumbfounding that he was hired to start with

So you got nothing then? And are just being angry to be angry? Ok!

say I’m wrong with that last statement, but I just gave you your chance to actually explain yourself instead of an general angry reaction and this is what you give. A bunch of nothing.

Go scream on Facebook where someone may want to read your drivel.🤣👍

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So you got nothing then? And are just being angry to be angry? Ok!

say I’m wrong with that last statement, but I just gave you your chance to actually explain yourself instead of an general angry reaction and this is what you give. A bunch of nothing.

Go scream on Facebook where someone may want to read your drivel.🤣👍

I got nothing?  His results speak for itself.  And he was co pilot in building this disaster 

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- co-signed the McCaffrey trade: That doesn't count!
- turned down the Rams: That doesn't count!
- co-signed the Young trade: That doesn't count, either!
- Young over Stroud: That doesn't count!
- fleeced by the Giants: That doesn't count!
- traded valuable picks for OL to pick an injured RB who's yet to play: That doesn't count!
- gave up the team's best WR for nothing: He had no leverage!

See? Nothing. 🤣👍

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I got nothing?  His results speak for itself.  And he was co pilot in building this disaster 

Lmao, so guilt by association? Maybe he was the voice inside the building that was against some of these disastrous moves, and that’s why he was promoted to GM?
 

Nobody here knows, you’re just blaming him for things you have no clue about with regards to the inner office operations of the Panthers. End of the day, the stuff you’re angry with Morgan the most over happened under Fitterer, not Morgan. And that’s my point. 

 

My point here, which you haven’t disputed is there hasn’t been anything you can directly point at Morgan and say this is all his fault. I’m not saying Morgan is a good GM btw, I’m just saying that you can understand the moves he’s making and why. All his moves last off season made sense to me, even the ones I didn’t like such as letting Luvu walk(caused by dead cap issues, and priorities on offense).

just being angry and shouting online is just being childish lmao

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2 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

- co-signed the McCaffrey trade: That doesn't count!
- turned down the Rams: That doesn't count!
- co-signed the Young trade: That doesn't count, either!
- Young over Stroud: That doesn't count!
- fleeced by the Giants: That doesn't count!
- traded valuable picks for OL to pick an injured RB who's yet to play: That doesn't count!
- gave up the team's best WR for nothing: He had no leverage!

See? Nothing. 🤣👍

Lmao, someone just wants to be angry. Poor baby!! 
 

Already explained the Burns and Johnson trades. The rest is irrelevant to Morgan and trying to label guilt by association. See my last post for why that’s as stupid as it is.

cry babies showing up today lol

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Lmao, someone just wants to be angry. Poor baby!! 
 

Already explained the Burns and Johnson trades. The rest is irrelevant to Morgan and trying to label guilt by association. See my last post for why that’s as stupid as it is.

cry babies showing up today lol

You attempted to make up justification for two stupid decisions. Call your cope whatever you like. It's still coping.

Immediately discrediting every claim made against Morgan based on "no clue with regards to the inner office operations" isn't quite the maturity flex you think it is. None of us are privy to the inner workings of this team, and the flailing decisions speak to the high possibility there are no inner workings.

And honestly, man, I wish we could justify all his moves, but some of them straight-up can't be. That trade was just bad, and you're not going to hell if you accept it as such.

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3 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

You attempted to make up justification for two stupid decisions. Call your cope whatever you like. It's still coping.

Immediately discrediting every claim made against Morgan based on "no clue with regards to the inner office operations" isn't quite the maturity flex you think it is. None of us are privy to the inner workings of this team, and the flailing decisions speak to the high possibility there are no inner workings.

And honestly, man, I wish we could justify all his moves, but some of them straight-up can't be. That trade was just bad, and you're not going to hell if you accept it as such.

So, what do you do with Burns and Johnson.

Let’s hear it buckaroo?

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Dan Morgan was our assistant GM for YEARS and Fitterer's right hand man.   That's not guilt by association.   

As stated before, we don’t know what his stance was inside the office on certain key moves. Fitter and Tepper definitely signed off on them. But we have no idea on Morgan.

for and against, it’s pure speculation because none of us were in that room. That’s my point.

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1 minute ago, Doc Holiday said:

So, what do you do with Burns and Johnson.

Let’s hear it buckaroo?

"Buckaroo." That's good. 🤣👍 Mature beyond his years, clearly.

Brian Burns was a far more justifiable asset to trade for a good return during the 2022 season, than DJ Moore (who was shipped out the following spring). Do you disagree? Let me know.

I'd have traded Burns before McCaffrey, and I wouldn't have traded Moore at all. It's possible, despite what Morgan and Fitterer display, to turn down a bad offer. Thirty-one other teams are aware of this.

That brings me to Johnson: if your "leverage" is "he wasn't gonna re-sign," you have no leverage; which, as you said, means you shouldn't make a trade, right? Do you disagree? If so, quickly adjust your prior stance.

Giving up No. 1 in 6 and a standout WR, even if he's petulant, for No. 30-32 in 5 = demonstrably stupid. Keep the comp pick if he re-signs, or see if he can be convinced to stay with a new non-Shedeur QB.

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