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"Setting the table" for the NFL offseason


Mr. Scot
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7 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Someone else mentioned it but I have to wonder if there's thoughts within the building about switching back to a 4-3, especially with Morgan as the GM and our defense being bare bones on talent which gives us an opening to transition with brand new players. This obviously makes Evero expendable and there's people out there like Robert Saleh who can run a 4-3 defense. 

With the way the passing game has opened up, defenses are spending most of their time in nickel variations and trying to be more fluid with being able to show looks as either 4-3 or a 3-4 during a game.

Regardless of what the base defense is, the team needs talent all over it. Edge rushers are priority #1 but the team also needs to find a true #2 CB, a young defensive lineman to pair with DB (and offset his contract), and intelligent safeties (Evero's defense depends on this and all but Richardson iirc are on expiring deals this season).

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12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If we wanted him to get a HC shot, I am not sure what setting him up with the worst defensive roster in the NFL is accomplishing. 

He probably has a thought or two about that too.

OTOH, DJ Johnson was his bonus baby so his hands weren't totally off the yoke when the trouble started.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

When it came to personnel matters, Fitterer deferred to damn near everybody.

Yeah. OTOH I do see value in involving the coordinators and the coaches in getting what they need.

I think probably the larger drawback of letting the coaches have that influence (the DJ pick notwithstanding) is the lack of continuity we have experienced. Because the next coach is less likely to have the same criteria as the last guy and here you go with players not fitting or whatever and the constant change doesn't allow our front office and scouts to find their sweet spot with the coaches' value system. 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

Yeah. OTOH I do see value in involving the coordinators and the coaches in getting what they need.

I think probably the larger drawback of letting the coaches have that influence (the DJ pick notwithstanding) is the lack of continuity we have experienced. Because the next coach is less likely to have the same criteria as the last guy and here you go with players not fitting or whatever and the constant change doesn't allow our front office and scouts to find their sweet spot with the coaches' value system. 

I don't necessarily disagree with doing that. You just have to be wise about it....kinda lile everything else 😄

Floyd Reese once said he didn't always like involving coaches in personnel evaluation because they had a tendency to see a particular play, fall in love with that player and not see the whole picture.

Of course on the flipside, we have the example our GM and scouts loving Bryce Young while Frank Reich preferred CJ Stroud 😕

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