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Early NFL offseason chatter


Mr. Scot
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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Johnson is reportedly listening though. Some have called him their leading candidate.

Also, having an executive who played till 40 tells me they wouldn't necessarily ball at an older quarterback.

Yes but Johnson listened to almost everyone this round. Lol.

Again, I think the odds of Johnson to LV are probably in the order of 1-2% likelihood. 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yes but Johnson listened to almost everyone this round. Lol.

Again, I think the odds of Johnson to LV are probably in the order of 1-2% likelihood. 

Rap Sheet might disagree.

Brady is said to be going "full court press" for Johnson, including having an extended conversation with his agent.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Rap Sheet might disagree.

Brady is said to be going "full court press" for Johnson, including having an extended conversation with his agent.

Lol. I could care less about Ian Makeupareport. His track record is pretty sketchy. Classic "be first to report" guy.

He can press all he wants, fully or otherwise. So is every other suitor. 

Doesn't make them more likely to gain his services. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. I could care less about Ian Makeupareport. His track record is pretty sketchy. Classic "be first to report" guy.

He can press all he wants, fully or otherwise. So is every other suitor. 

Doesn't make them more likely to gain his services. 

Don't know. We'll see. 

To be clear, Rapoport isn't the only one talking about it.

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22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't really see why that would matter for them. They have a QB they like and they would be drafting one of the best two non-QB's at 4. That's one of the least impactful moving from 1 to 4 scenarios I can imagine in recent memory.

That's still a massive loss of draft capital. In the 1st round alone, the value pick differential going off of the standard chart (which is a rough guideline to be fair) dropping from #1 to #4 is the equivalent of the #12 overall pick.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Rex Ryan Is lobbying for the Jets job. 

Oy 😕

The Jets might be in a the same boat Tepper found himself in where their wish list kinda has to start where everyone else's ends. If someone has another option they're probably gonna take the other option.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

That's still a massive loss of draft capital. In the 1st round alone, the value pick differential going off of the standard chart (which is a rough guideline to be fair) dropping from #1 to #4 is the equivalent of the #12 overall pick.

Yeah but, again, that has very little actual impact unless they were banking on trying to trade out of #1. The impact to the talent they get will be almost nothing(in theory).

I don't think he got canned for that win. I think he got canned for not winning enough and also for better coaching options being available. 

Kraft is leaning towards being a dysfunctional franchise, IMO. Will be interesting to see what happens moving forward with Vrabel.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jets might be in a the same boat Tepper found himself in where their wish list kinda has to start where everyone else's ends. If someone has another option they're probably gonna take the other option.

Granted. 

I'm hoping we got lucky. We pretty much knew that getting lucky was about the only way Tepper was going to get a good head coach.

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