Steinbrenner dead

[c0r]

i know a lot of people hated him, and i am far from a yankee fan, but you have to respect the man. he wanted to make money and decided that the best way to do that would be to win championships. and he succeeded at that. probably the best owner in the history of sports.

[Mesmer]

I know he wasn't perfect but I don't understand the hate.

[Mr. Scot]

Winning championships is one thing. Protecting an unfair advantage and doing everything possible to prevent anyone from leveling the playing field is another. That's not the mark of a great owner. It's the act of an abject coward.

[DirtyMagic97]

Winning championships is one thing. Protecting an unfair advantage and doing everything possible to prevent anyone from leveling the playing field is another. That's not the mark of a great owner. It's the act of an abject coward.

It's called business.

[Panthro]

He will be missed.

[c0r]

It's called business.

yup. he did what he had to to maximize profits. he took the yankees to a whole new level and created a global brand.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Preperations for the funeral have already begun. And of course, the media won't let them have a bit of privacy in the matter. Here's a photo of the planning meeting.

[Mr. Scot]

yup. he did what he had to to maximize profits. he took the yankees to a whole new level and created a global brand.

And in the process, helped knock baseball out of its spot as the preeminent American sport. But hey, if you think maximizing one's own profits at the cost of the game that produces those profits, then Steinbrenner is your guy (Jerry Jones too).

The NFL's owners as a group have been smart enough to know that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It was their ability to put their own individual interests second to the good of the bigger game that made football what it is today. Working together elevated their collective brand, effectively taking all of them to greater heights than any one of them could have accomplished individually.

That's why football is king of the sports landscape today while baseball is a sad also-ran.

Ask yourself this question: Do you want Jerry Jones to succeed in maximizing the Cowboys at the expense of the game and every other team in the league? If you say no, then how can you praise Steinbrenner? He and Jones practice exactly the same MO.

I have zero respect for any owner who maximizes his own team at the expense of the sport, not to mention an owner who's too big a coward to play on a level field. That's Jones, and it was Steinbrenner too.

[Jackson 5]

R.I.P. Mr. Steinbrenner

[DirtyMagic97]

And in the process, helped knock baseball out of its spot as the preeminent American sport. But hey, if you think maximizing one's own profits at the cost of the game that produces those profits, then Steinbrenner is your guy (Jerry Jones too).

The NFL's owners as a group have been smart enough to know that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It was their ability to put their own individual interests second to the good of the bigger game that made football what it is today. Working together elevated their collective brand, effectively taking all of them to greater heights than any one of them could have accomplished individually.

That's why football is king of the sports landscape today while baseball is a sad also-ran.

Ask yourself this question: Do you want Jerry Jones to succeed in maximizing the Cowboys at the expense of the game and every other team in the league? If you say no, then how can you praise Steinbrenner? He and Jones practice exactly the same MO.

I have zero respect for any owner who maximizes his own team at the expense of the sport, not to mention an owner who's too big a coward to play on a level field. That's Jones, and it was Steinbrenner too.

It is within the rules of the game. Saying he is hurting the game by spending that much money is no different than saying players hurt the game by taking the money. It is within the rules, and it's no different than any other business. You spend money to make money, and he made a substantial amount.

And it isn't even like they were in the World Series every single year. Plenty of small market teams made the playoffs and even got to the series. The death of baseball has less to do with salary caps and more to do with what Americans want in a sport. Speed. It's the soccer effect. Most people still like to go to games, but to watch it on TV for a casual sports fan is the equivalent of torture.

I have much more respect for an owner who tries to win games for the fans...the people that are the ONLY reason he is allowed to do what he can do, than an owner who is simply in it to better the league.

[Miaoww]

It's within the rules, DM, but as an influential owner he's in a position to change them. Or was, I suppose.

Instead he backed his own cause and damaged the game as a result.

[neverlosethefeeling]

Steroids damaged the game more than Steinbrenner ever could.

RIP Boss!

[Implied Volatility]

And in the process, helped knock baseball out of its spot as the preeminent American sport. But hey, if you think maximizing one's own profits at the cost of the game that produces those profits, then Steinbrenner is your guy (Jerry Jones too).

The NFL's owners as a group have been smart enough to know that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It was their ability to put their own individual interests second to the good of the bigger game that made football what it is today. Working together elevated their collective brand, effectively taking all of them to greater heights than any one of them could have accomplished individually.

That's why football is king of the sports landscape today while baseball is a sad also-ran.

Ask yourself this question: Do you want Jerry Jones to succeed in maximizing the Cowboys at the expense of the game and every other team in the league? If you say no, then how can you praise Steinbrenner? He and Jones practice exactly the same MO.

I have zero respect for any owner who maximizes his own team at the expense of the sport, not to mention an owner who's too big a coward to play on a level field. That's Jones, and it was Steinbrenner too.

I HATE the Yankees, but come on...

The Yankees won 7 World Series titles under the ownership of Steinbrenner. George bought the Yankees in 1973. So in 37 years the Yankees won 7 titles. You make it sound like they won every year.

By the way, Steinbrenner paid $10 million for the Yankees in '73. As of 2010, the Yankees are now worth $1.6 billion according to Forbes. How can you not respect that? And he didn't do it at the expense of MLB. Because over the last decade, the collective worth of all 30 MLB teams has more than doubled.

[DirtyMagic97]

It's within the rules, DM, but as an influential owner he's in a position to change them. Or was, I suppose.

Instead he backed his own cause and damaged the game as a result.

The players union wouldn't have allowed it whether Steinbrenner wanted it or not. He was absolutely incapable of making the change himself even if he wanted to.

Bottom line is he was out to make money and win championships, which he did. And it isn't like he won every single year. Plenty of other teams competed...even small market teams.