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I caught over 100 punts in camp, that's not an excuse anymore

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By Zod,
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I just think they're wasting everybody's time by trying to make AE a punt returner. Let him just focus on learning the WR position. And if you want to get him on the field early, give him a package of 3-5 plays as a wildcat QB, which he should be very confortable with. Problem solved.

We already have a punt returner anyway, plus a couple of young guys who have actually done it before in college.

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The Saltman Apprentice

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I just think they're wasting everybody's time by trying to make AE a punt returner. Let him just focus on learning the WR position. And if you want to get him on the field early, give him a package of 3-5 plays as a wildcat QB, which he should be very confortable with. Problem solved.

We already have a punt returner anyway, plus a couple of young guys who have actually done it before in college.

This.

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I just think they're wasting everybody's time by trying to make AE a punt returner. Let him just focus on learning the WR position. And if you want to get him on the field early, give him a package of 3-5 plays as a wildcat QB, which he should be very confortable with. Problem solved.

We already have a punt returner anyway, plus a couple of young guys who have actually done it before in college.

I too agree with this. Let him play WR for a year, develop his hands, play some Wildcats with him, and then see if he still shows speed.

If he steps up his game great. If not, move him to the practice squad or shop him for a trade as a QB (When its all said and done, we will have done a disservice to him drafting him as a PR/WR, when he could have been a Vick-like QB somewhere else.)

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First yes I am an App Fan and an AE supporter so i may be bias. Having said that, I have said from the beginning that it will be difficult for AE to transition from QB to PR. I think he will be ok as a WR but catching a punt is a totally different animal, there are plenty of WR in the NFL that can't do it.

Having watched AE for four years trust me when I say that as hard as some people on here are being on him I know he is being harder on himself, he is an athlete and competitor...give him time and he will be an asset.

Now on a positive not (not that our offence is in anyway positive) anyone notice who is in the top three in receiving stats so far and over doubling LaFell? (yes, I know it's against second/third string but he is also an QB convert from a FCS school who hasn't caught a pass since early in high school and is now doing it against NFL talent.)

Just saying, it's not all bad.

Receiving Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD

Armanti Edwards 4 32 8.0 15 0

Dwayne Jarrett 4 24 6.0 8 0

Mike Goodson 3 18 6.0 9 0

Dexter Jackson 3 42 14.0 25 0

Tyrell Sutton 3 22 7.3 8 0

Gary Barnidge 2 13 6.5 9 0

Tony Fiammetta 2 19 9.5 11 0

David Gettis 2 25 12.5 14 0

Kenny Moore 2 51 25.5 26 0

Dante Rosario 2 26 13.0 19 0

Josh Vaughan 2 10 5.0 7 0

Jeff King 1 6 6.0 6 0

Brandon LaFell 1 15 15.0 15 0

DeAngelo Williams 1 0 0.0 0 0

Wallace Wright 1 6 6.0 6 0

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Now on a positive not (not that our offence is in anyway positive) anyone notice who is in the top three in receiving stats so far and over doubling LaFell? (yes, I know it's against second/third string but he is also an QB convert from a FCS school who hasn't caught a pass since early in high school and is now doing it against NFL talent.)

Just saying, it's not all bad.

Receiving Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD

Armanti Edwards 4 32 8.0 15 0

Dwayne Jarrett 4 24 6.0 8 0

Mike Goodson 3 18 6.0 9 0

Dexter Jackson 3 42 14.0 25 0

Tyrell Sutton 3 22 7.3 8 0

Gary Barnidge 2 13 6.5 9 0

Tony Fiammetta 2 19 9.5 11 0

David Gettis 2 25 12.5 14 0

Kenny Moore 2 51 25.5 26 0

Dante Rosario 2 26 13.0 19 0

Josh Vaughan 2 10 5.0 7 0

Jeff King 1 6 6.0 6 0

Brandon LaFell 1 15 15.0 15 0

DeAngelo Williams 1 0 0.0 0 0

Wallace Wright 1 6 6.0 6 0

Yes but Armanti has also been targeted something like 11 times (pretty sure that's more than any of the other recievers) and only has 4 receptions. Believe me I'm not trying to poo on AE, I actually like him and pray that he comes around and develops into a helluva WR/PR, I'm just not banking on it being THIS season.

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First yes I am an App Fan and an AE supporter so i may be bias. Having said that, I have said from the beginning that it will be difficult for AE to transition from QB to PR. I think he will be ok as a WR but catching a punt is a totally different animal, there are plenty of WR in the NFL that can't do it.

Having watched AE for four years trust me when I say that as hard as some people on here are being on him I know he is being harder on himself, he is an athlete and competitor...give him time and he will be an asset.

Now on a positive not (not that our offence is in anyway positive) anyone notice who is in the top three in receiving stats so far and over doubling LaFell? (yes, I know it's against second/third string but he is also an QB convert from a FCS school who hasn't caught a pass since early in high school and is now doing it against NFL talent.)

Just saying, it's not all bad.

Receiving Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD

Armanti Edwards 4 32 8.0 15 0

Dwayne Jarrett 4 24 6.0 8 0

Mike Goodson 3 18 6.0 9 0

Dexter Jackson 3 42 14.0 25 0

Tyrell Sutton 3 22 7.3 8 0

Gary Barnidge 2 13 6.5 9 0

Tony Fiammetta 2 19 9.5 11 0

David Gettis 2 25 12.5 14 0

Kenny Moore 2 51 25.5 26 0

Dante Rosario 2 26 13.0 19 0

Josh Vaughan 2 10 5.0 7 0

Jeff King 1 6 6.0 6 0

Brandon LaFell 1 15 15.0 15 0

DeAngelo Williams 1 0 0.0 0 0

Wallace Wright 1 6 6.0 6 0

Armanti also has AT LEAST 1 more entire quarter of play-time than Jarrett and LaFell...

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I tried to find thrown to stats for preseason but couldn't, and the point of this wasn't to say, "look how great AE is doing" it was to show that to be a convert WR he IS making some nice plays that will just continue to get better with time...."time" is the the key word!

speaking of time, here is a WR's rookie season, would you call him as bust at WR?

G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

15 1 10 154 15.4 33 0 4 43 10.8 39 0 8 3

This was Steve Smith's Rookie season.

Notice I said "bust at WR" I know he had a great year at return man and I'm not saying AE will be another Steve Smith!

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I tried to find thrown to stats for preseason but couldn't, and the point of this wasn't to say, "look how great AE is doing" it was to show that to be a convert WR he IS making some nice plays that will just continue to get better with time...."time" is the the key word!

speaking of time, here is a WR's rookie season, would you call him as bust at WR?

G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost

15 1 10 154 15.4 33 0 4 43 10.8 39 0 8 3

This was Steve Smith's Rookie season.

Notice I said "bust at WR" I know he had a great year at return man and I'm not saying AE will be another Steve Smith!

Why even bring up Smitty if you aren't going to compare them?

Smitty also took his first regular season touch to the house as a rookie... AE will clearly muff the kick, if given the same opportunity...

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Why even bring up Smitty if you aren't going to compare them?

Smitty also took his first regular season touch to the house as a rookie... AE will clearly muff the kick, if given the same opportunity...

Notice I said "bust at WR" I know he had a great year at return man and I'm not saying AE will be another Steve Smith!

Not trying to compare the two as much as I was trying to say players do develope over "time" <- there's that word again.

And BTW according to panthers.com Steve Smith's total Receiving TD's in his rookie season was 0. :sifone:

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Notice I said "bust at WR" I know he had a great year at return man and I'm not saying AE will be another Steve Smith!

Not trying to compare the two as much as I was trying to say players do develope over "time" <- there's that word again.

And BTW according to panthers.com Steve Smith's total Receiving TD's in his rookie season was 0. :sifone:

He also played with one of the worst QBs of all time, so keep that in mind.

The point is that it takes receivers a while to develop. But a lot of returners can come into the league and play well- see Captain Munnerlyn.

Just get it over already, have AE "cut" his foot while mowing the grass and IR him.

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