How can anyone justify Moore over Clausen at this point?

[TheRealDeal]

It's sad when your only defense of a player starting is that we suck so we might as not play the best player. That's basically what your post said right?

Moore is better but he is not going to be here so we shouldn't play him?

[TheRealDeal]

You've backed it up with relevant stat. I applaud you on that no doubt. You made a valid point. But what I'm trying to get you to see is that even with Moore's turnovers we are still a better offense, hence the more ppg. But if you want to base it on only a page of the book and not the whole chapter then be my guest.

[panthers55]

Right, 6 out of the 59 passes Moore has attempted this year have resulted in an interception :eek:

3 out of the 91 passes Clausen (the rookie) has attempted this year have resulted in an interception.

2 out of the 59 passes Moore has attempted this year have resulted in a TD.

1 out of the 91 passes Clausen has attempted this year have resulted in a TD.

Let's also consider that 22 of the 91 total passing attempts by Clausen came from the Bears game, with no Steve Smith on the field while both of the TD's Matt More has thrown this year have been to Steve Smith.

Oh, and Moore's average yards-per-throw is 5.8 while Clausen's is 5.0. Moore's completion percentage is 43% while Clausen's is 47%

Questions?

Total Interceptions are way over blown, 4 out of his 6 interception were in the fourth quarter when we were well behind and he was trying to make something happen. When the game was in question which was the first half Moore had 1 Int and Clausen has 2.

Lets look at more relevant stats. Passing yards per game- Clausen 90, Moore 116.

First downs as a percentage of third down throws- Clausen 7 of 29 (24%)

Moore 10 of 22- 45%

How about third and medium or longer (3rd and 6 or more)-

Moore- 5 out of 11- 45%, Clausen 2 of 19- 10%

TDs in the first half- Moore 2, Clausen 1

Yards per attempt- Moore - 5.8 yards an attempt, Clausen 4.9 yards an attempt

If you look beyond the interceptions which were largely in junk time and focus on much more important stats like first downs, moving the chains, TDs when the game is close, you find that Moore is doing much better than Clausen.

[Phil Dees]

No QB in the NFL with only 1 TD has thrown more passes than Clausen (91).

Next most is Jake with only 60 attempts.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns/qualified/false

[blak-n-blu]

We are starting to be the Browns-- a few years back. Jeff Davidson, Rip Scherer, QB controversy; the whole nine yards........

[koolkatluke]

You've backed it up with relevant stat. I applaud you on that no doubt. You made a valid point. But what I'm trying to get you to see is that even with Moore's turnovers we are still a better offense, hence the more ppg. But if you want to base it on only a page of the book and not the whole chapter then be my guest.

Again so if Matt start are we going too make the playoffs?

[MurkN]

Again so if Matt start are we going too make the playoffs?

If Matt starts we have a chance to get a first down.

[blak-n-blu]

If Matt starts we have a chance to get a first down.

Its obvious we're playing for next year and obviously, Matt Moore isn't going to be here.

[TheRealDeal]

Both opinions...this is more of a fact based thread.

[CatMan72]

I've figured out what Matt's real problem is... that goofy looking "japanimation" helmet he's wearing this year.

Did you notice Carson Palmer switched out of that helmet after his performance against us?

Tom Brady was wearing that same kind of helmet in the preseason and switched out of it to his old helmet design before the regular season started.... hmmmm

Next time I'm at practice, I'm going to suggest Matt go back to his old helmet... LOL

I noticed Moore put the sweatband back on his right forearm after the Giants game in an attempt to move back towards his 2009 look... I wonder if he's even considered the helmet, I'll ask.

Matt's a baseball guy, those guys are superstitious as hell. Just remember to credit me if Matt switches back to his 2009 helmet and returns to 2009 form.

[koolkatluke]

If Matt starts we have a chance to get a first down.

What does that do for the future of this team? If he gets a 1st down here and there but we still lose 13-14-15 or 16 games and he is not on the roster next year. How did him starting help this team?

[TheRealDeal]

Again, it's sad that the only defense you have of Clausen playing now is the better QB will not be here next year (which may or may not be true).

[MurkN]

We can keep Jimmy out there and see what the NFL record is for 3 and outs in a season.

[scpanther22]

We can keep Jimmy out there and see what the NFL record is for 3 and outs in a season.

That wont change with Matt moore out there.