This is all YOUR fault! Yeah, YOU! And your DOG too!

[PantherFanForLife]

Am I wrong in assuming that the main reason everyone is pissed off is because they want this team to start winning on a regular basis, make the post-season more often, and that they want whatever problems is keeping this team from achieving that.............fixed? And on top of that you want some REAL freaking answers for what's going on, no?

Well there can only be 2 explanations for what's going on and there IS something you can do about it.

1) There's a lot of things wrong with the team that need to be fixed, but there is NO one big underlying issue and everything is simply going as planned. Unfortunatelly it's a long term plan that will only reveal itself and its positive result over time.

2) There IS either one or a couple of BIG underlying issues with this team, but NO one has any freaking clue what it really is with any kind of certainty because the leaders aren't talking and the angry fanbase is too busy pointing their fingers at everyone, but completely missing the mark.

Perhaps a combination of both. Either way the biggest thing is that YOU WANT ANSWERS! YOU WANT TO KNOW!

Well I am a big believer that an angry mob of fans or even a small minority of fans that kind of know what they are talking about, can be influential enough to get noticed by the media, and that those fans together with the media can be influential enough to get some changes made or some answers, but in order for that to happen, you have to have your guns pointed at least in the direction of who might be responsible. Oth, just going absolutely nuts, pointing fingers everywhere, only gets you changes that please YOU, calm YOU down, keep YOU buying tickets, keep YOU guessing, but in the mean time does absolutely nothing for the main problem on this team.

"It's all JR's fault! He's just greedy and this "youth movement" doesn't work"

Really? Yeah the offense sucks. But if that was REALLY the case, explain the defense. He certainly kept a few vets there and continues to pay them, and together with the rest of the youth....this defense is DAMN IMPRESSIVE! We're also loaded at RB. That makes no sense if he just simply wanted to save money. Why not let go some of those guys? We STILL have KASEY on the roster! The ORIGINAL PANTHER!

"It's Marty Hurney. He's not buying up anyone meaningful".

Really? Well what if he does have his hands tied? How could he? How can you really say that without REALLY knowing?

"It's all John Fox! He's the one that's really in charge! He's proving a point"

Really? So he's purposely coaching the offense to be ATTROCIOUS, while coaching the defense to be GREAT? If you blame him completely for the offense, don't you have to credit him completely for the defense?

"It's all the OC's playcalling. The defense is playing great so obviously the OC is at fault."

Really? Yeah the playcalling has upset me quiet a few times, but wait, I thought Fox was in charge? No? Ok. Well do you really think the actual plays in the book involve the QB's missing their targets by a mile, fumbling, throwing pics and the receivers having bricks for hands or not getting open?

"Oh i get it, it's all the QB's fault. Put the next guy in NOW!"

Yeah...that's worked out great.

"Well clearly it must be the receivers, and that's because Marty Hurney can't draft, can't trade and JR isn't spending the money!"

Awesome! So we are back to square one!

You get the point. And the point is, We have NO f**kING CLUE! No really, we are going in circles.

And if that's the case, shouldn't the first thing we do as a fanbase is TRY TO REALLY FIND OUT? Shouldn't we also be pointing our fingers at these gutless interviewers that sit there in front of John Fox week after week at a press conference asking the most retarded, general and basic questions that NEVER get a real answer out of the man? Shouldn't we be flooding their e-mail inboxes too telling them how bad of a f**king job they are doing getting anyone to talk? Why do they get a break? Shouldn't we be calling Panther Talk Radio and telling them TO GET REAL?

And if they don't? Shouldn't you just turn that poo off? Along with you not showing up next Sunday, watching some other game, and ignoring them right back? It might work better than pointing your fingers at the whole freaking team. In that case you may just want to find another one, cause everyone is at fault. Including you. In that case, I want them to draft some new fans too.

[Guild]

Fans do not make the team lose.

[The Saltman]

don't bring my dog into this bitch.

[boo7382]

How long did it take you to type all of that

[PantherBrew]

Fans do not make the team lose.

If they did, the Cowboys fans could.

[Happy Panther]

JR purposely gutted the team as a business decision, in peperation for a lockout and to set an example to his fellow owners

We are assuming that once all the negotiations have settled that we will get a new coaches new players and will start heading back to greatness.

As long as that happens I'm ok with a bad year

[carolinarolls]

thinking fans do not have a role to play is ignorant

their role as positive can only take them so far, that's true

their role as negative can be pretty detrimental however

that detriment is logically compounded when the team is younger as it is now

[Guild]

to set an example to his fellow owners

This makes me laugh. I'm not saying your wrong at all. I'm just thinking that this is one hell of an interesting example that no one else followed.

[Cat Fanboy]

Great post - summed it up pretty well for me. You left out the idiots wanting to trade our best players though. I've been tired of everyone wanting to fire the whole coaching staff for years now...ST, OC, Head coach..never ends.

I believe there are too many Huddlers that do not do any critical thinking and just want to rage at the weather. Even the mighty has fallen with Scot displaying a succaneer avatar and coming up with crazy conclusions...maybe the Mayan calendar(s?) was off by a year.

Our defense is looking great, we almost beat the Saints (not the end of the game, the 2nd TD we gave up). Bears hit us hard x2 before we adjusted and stopped that crap. We need to get our Oline up and running first and we need to get Clausen to stop checking down, stop staring down, and eat some wheaties so he can hit a downfield WR.

[Goosfraba21]

All right stop, Collaborate and listen

Ice is back with my brand new invention

Something grabs a hold of me tightly

Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly

Will it ever stop? Yo! I don't know

Turn off the lights and I'll glow

To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal

Light up a stage and watch me jump like a candle.

Dance, go rush the speaker that booms

I'm killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom

Deadly, when I play a dope melody

Anything less than the best is a felony

Love it or leave it, You better gain way

You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play

If there was a problem, Yo, I'll solve it

Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it

Sorry. Had to do it when I saw that stop sign.

[PantherFanForLife]

All right stop, Collaborate and listen

Ice is back with my brand new invention

Something grabs a hold of me tightly

Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly

Will it ever stop? Yo! I don't know

Turn off the lights and I'll glow

To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal

Light up a stage and watch me jump like a candle.

Dance, go rush the speaker that booms

I'm killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom

Deadly, when I play a dope melody

Anything less than the best is a felony

Love it or leave it, You better gain way

You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play

If there was a problem, Yo, I'll solve it

Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it

Sorry. Had to do it when I saw that stop sign.

If you would only bring some of that poo you have in your avatar at the games....we'd have a DAMN GOOD TIME! Why are you holding out? See what I mean....your fault too.

[PantherDude]

But I don't have a dog.

[ChucktownK]

*kicks dog...

[The Saltman]

*kicks his dog named chucktownk*