Potential Head Coaches

[ladypanther]

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_16632181?nclick_check=1

Great article on Luck and Harbaugh

His father, Oliver Luck, a former NFL quarterback and currently the athletic director at West Virginia...

Did not know that. Even more surprising he ended up at Stanford....now obviously a good decision. Hope he is a Panther.

[Kevin Greene]

So we should keep drafting players at a certain position until they show they're HoF worthy?

Hurney saw fit to go running back with the #1 pick 2 times in 3 years. And the year previous to that he spent a 2nd rounder on a running back.

At least drafting Luck would make sense.

[rayzor]

I never really looked at it that way. I agree with you. Hopefully he comes out this year and we scure the #1 pick. But my question is... How do you know Harbaugh is looking to coach Pro next season? And if he did, what makes him take the Panthers over the 49ers or even the Cowboys? Dallas already has all the tools on offense to suit his Power Running game with great WR's. He might want a championship now and not later. Plus he is only 27-21 at Stanford. Not much experience at the college level IMO. But I do love his creativity.

Anyone got an answer?

we don't know. it's all specualtion.

panthers over the 49ers or cowboys? management? i don't know. threatening to draft his QB?

it might be that teams realize that he is a star on the rise. the way you get ahead is by taking advantage of people that are rising talents.

he could end up staying at stanford and become the coach K of college football.

i won't be heartbroken if we don't hire him. i'd rather us get him than any other team and i'll probaly be a little jealous, but if we win games, i won't care too much. i want progress and imo, harbaugh is the best candidate to bring that progress. whatever he does, i'm a fan of what he does. i just hope he doesn't end up coaching a rival.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Hurney saw fit to go running back with the #1 pick 2 times in 3 years. And the year previous to that he spent a 2nd rounder on a running back.

At least drafting Luck would make sense.

I see what you mean, you know, with the NFL switching to this whole "1 All-star RB is all we need" system.

/sarcasm

[rayzor]

So we should keep drafting players at a certain position until they show they're HoF worthy?

should we keep trying to improve at every position? absolutely.

do you think that if we had a choice between bradford and clausen that we would have picked clausen? do you think that if we knew that we would have the #1 pick overall this year, that we would have spent that 2nd round pick last year on a QB?

the success of this team going forward depends largely on who we have at QB. why wouldn't we want to have the best player possible there? if we can get a better QB without giving up too much, we absolutely should.

[Kevin Greene]

I see what you mean, you know, with the NFL switching to this whole "1 All-star RB is all we need" system.

/sarcasm

Actually I was serious. Quality running backs can be found in lower rounds. Witness Mike Goodson. QBs on the other hand, much tougher to come by. An oportunity to draft an Andrew Luck, well you hope it never comes around because it means you play like the Panthers have this year. But if you're there and he's there, you grab him. Even if you're going to deal him as the Chargers did Eli getting Phillip Rivers, Sean Merriman and Nate Keading, 3 Pro Bowlers.

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

QBs on the other hand, much tougher to come by.

I'm guessing Brett Favre, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady don't count do they?

I'm neutral on the entire subject.

[Kevin Greene]

I'm guessing Brett Favre, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady don't count do they?

I'm neutral on the entire subject.

Just let us all know who that will be in the 4th round this Spring okay?

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

Just let us all know who that will be in the 4th round this Spring okay?

Thats the beauty of drafting. You don't truly know who will transfer over to the Pro's. You never know when you will land that late round steal. To relate to the Panthers: The only gem (currently) is David Gettis. He has made big strides since TC.

[rayzor]

I'm guessing Brett Favre, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady don't count do they?

I'm neutral on the entire subject.

because picking QBs like that off the tree is so easy.

for years this team has been content trying (using that word loosely) to find the next late round/undrafted QB stud rather than going shopping in the best place to find a stud QB. you want a QB that is going to be a success? the best place to find them is in the first round. does that mean that everyone you pick in the first is going to work out? nope. does that guarantee success?nope. it just means that most successful QBs are picked in the first round. your best chance of finding one is in the first. thats where we need to be shopping for one.

if you want to compete with the other QBs in the league, esp. in the NFCS, you need to have a really good QB. mediocre won't do it anymore.

[Mr. Scot]

Every QB picked to go first overall "is just special"

Clausen was "is just special" last year.

I don't see how people let the wool slide back down over their eyes every year.

Traditional PantherFan philosophy of the grass is always greener.

Eeeehhh, not really.

Every year there's a guy (or guys) that are considered the best in their particular class, but not all of those guys are on the same plane.

There was a year when Heath Shuler and Trent Dilfer were the best that the college ranks had to offer. And while people agreed they were first round caliber, nobody was confusing them with John Elway or Dan Marino. Guys like Elway, Marino, Peyton and others don't show up every year. They're once-in-a-lifetime choices that GMs bypass at their own risk.

The question is whether Luck is "that kind of player". Jury overall might still be out, but a fair number of draft guys think he may just be.

[Mr. Scot]

Did not know that.

I did

His dad quarterbacked WVU to its most successful season in a long time when I was in high school. He was a hero to me and my football buddies. My brother still considers him the best quarterback WVU ever had, even over Jeff Hostetler (who had a much more successful pro career).

First words out of my mouth the first time I heard the phrase 'quarterback Andrew Luck' were "Is he Oliver Luck's son?"

[scpanther22]

rayzor pretty much sums it up perfectly.

This isnt a knock against Clausen, its just Luck is special. You cant pass that up.

We tend to hear this a lot around this time about QB prospects the hype machine makes these players the next big thing before they even hit a NFL field..

People were saying the same thing about Jake Locker this time last year he was going to be the next Steve young..etc..I am not saying Luck is not a good QB he is a good QB just saying the "he is a rare elite player gets thrown around a lot"

[Mr. Scot]

We tend to hear this a lot around this time about QB prospects the hype machine makes these players the next big thing before they even hit a NFL field..

People were saying the same thing about Jake Locker this time last year he was going to be the next Steve young..etc..I am not saying Luck is not a good QB he is a good QB just saying the "he is a rare elite player gets thrown around a lot"

I never thought Locker was as good as the hype, and I've heard plenty of questions about him (even last year).

Luck though? I've seen enough to be sold. Most of the NFL scouts looking at him need to wear bibs to deal with the drooling.