From Darin: Panthers getting numbers back

[ElkinPanthersFan]

thats my dilemma as well. i want the panthers to win, just because i'm a fan, and i think we could actually pull it off this week.

on the other hand...i want that #1 overall and i don't want anything to screw that up.

I agree with you. It's hard.

In other news, atleast starting the other team's fantasy defense every week is leading a resurgence in my fantasy leagues.

[CRA]

If we can give Clausen a 100 yard rusher along with LaFell, Gettis, and Smith then he no longer has any excuses.

I'll finally feel comfy forming an opinion on him. He still gets a few "rookie" mistakes but it's time for him to start making some strides instead of baby steps.

we already gave him that.....we got our tails kicked by Tampa.

[jasonluckydog]

I'm mixed here, I want to win but I also want that 1st pick.

[SorthNarolina]

we already gave him that.....we got our tails kicked by Tampa.

yeah I kinda forgot about the D. I think he could have pulled it out against the ravens but not if the D gets run over again.

[CRA]

yeah I kinda forgot about the D. I think he could have pulled it out against the ravens but not if the D gets run over again.

I think Clausen would have done exactly what St. Pierre did minus the TD throw and 2 INTs. Clausen just provides zero offense. D will get run over this week by Hillis....much like the Tampa game. Leave a D on the field b/c of a lack of offense and big back is gonna make them pay.

[Miaoww]

I think Clausen would have done exactly what St. Pierre did minus the TD throw and 2 INTs. Clausen just provides zero offense. D will get run over this week by Hillis....much like the Tampa game. Leave a D on the field b/c of a lack of offense and big back is gonna make them pay.

Mum, sister or girlfriend?

[CRA]

Mum, sister or girlfriend?

lame. being a fan doesn't mean you have just make stuff up and pretend guys are doing something they aren't.

Matt Moore, St. Pierre, Bradford, McCoy, Hall....EVERY SINGLE Panther or rookie QB has been able to get a WR/TE into an endzone. Jimmy hasn't even done that once despite multiple starts. The rookie or the Panthers sucks excuses just don't fly at this point.

Reality is you don't need to try to sell Clasuen which all you are doing w/ that lame joke. New coach means new QB. History proves that in the NFL w/ the exception being SB QBs that inherited.

[Miaoww]

So TD passes to RBs don't count? Ok. Oh wait - it was a broken play! If Clausen hadn't have taken advantage of a wide open Stewart you'd bitch about that too.

Tell you what, if Clausen looks like Moore over the next 6 games then I'll get on board the Luck train. Until then though, he's the guy.

[CRA]

So TD passes to RBs don't count? Ok. Oh wait - it was a broken play! If Clausen hadn't have taken advantage of a wide open Stewart you'd bitch about that too.

Tell you what, if Clausen looks like Moore over the next 6 games then I'll get on board the Luck train. Until then though, he's the guy.

when the ONLY promising play you have to your resume is a busted gift play to your RB in numerous starts. No, not in my book. Matt Moore, St. Pierre....as horrible as they are, they still provided some offense....offense that came out of actual plays.

Fox leaving pretty much cements Clausen won't be the guy. It just doesn't happen in the NFL w/ new coaches. Again, recent history proves that. Unless a new HC is given a SB QB....it simply doesn't happen. No reason to at this point can Clausen be argued as an exception to that.

Rookies are allowed to be rookies. Clausen has shown nothing except for new flaws most didn't expect. Rookies and other QBs in bad offenses (THIS bad offense). can at least make a play or two mixed in w/ all the garbage. Clausen hasn't once done that.

I am fine playing Clausen b/c that is our only option. Pretending Clausen is something he isn't wouldn't make me a better fan.

[Miaoww]

Woah, wait, that's the only promising play he's made? Good god you're harsh.

[Jaxel]

CRA your usually write about the Panthers, so your negetism makes me believe we will lose... I need it.

[CRA]

Woah, wait, that's the only promising play he's made? Good god you're harsh.

okay, tell me what Clausen has done at this point that should have me believing in him?

Hey, I know I am a hard fan to please. But these aren't college kids. They are paid professional athletes. IMO, there is no way around....Jimmy should have shown something by now....the rookie and the Panther excuse just isn't enough considering how little he has done.

[Pox 08]

okay, tell me what Clausen has done at this point that should have me believing in him?

Hey, I know I am a hard fan to please. But these aren't college kids. They are paid professional athletes. IMO, there is no way around....Jimmy should have shown something by now....the rookie and the Panther excuse just isn't enough considering how little he has done.

Don't have to believe in him. Just don't judge him yet . You've seen our Oline, the pressure he and Moore were under, the constant abuse. Not many veterans can handle that kind of situation, let alone these young guys that are inexperienced.

I'd like to see a game where Clausen is getting even just average protection the entire game, with decent run game. He may surprise us.

[CRA]

Don't have to believe in him. Just don't judge him yet . You've seen our Oline, the pressure he and Moore were under, the constant abuse. Not many veterans can handle that kind of situation, let alone these young guys that are inexperienced.

I'd like to see a game where Clausen is getting even just average protection the entire game, with decent run game. He may surprise us.

We saw that already. Tampa. Decent protection. Good run game. Jimmy couldn't get anything going.

at some point the excuses for Jimmy have to stop. Even St. Pierre....a horrible QB got something going before his implosion late. I can handle Jimmy looking bad. Again, I get he is a rookie and I understand what the Carolina offense is. Still, he hasn't shown anything. Other Panther QBs have had moments at least.