Think about what you'd have to trade...

[Mr. Scot]

...in order to acquire Peyton Manning.

Now imagine that you're trading for Manning in his youth, with his whole career still ahead of him. Now what do you think you'd have to give up?

The answer to that question likely borders on the ridiculous.

But whatever that is, that's what we'd need to ask for in order to trade away the #1 pick if Andrew Luck comes out.

And if you'd be willing to give that pick up for anything less, all I can say is I'm glad you're not GM :nonod:

[Udogg]

Or we can take Andrew Luck have him on our side for 10+ years......

[Swarly]

Herschel Walker trade 2.0

seriously though, I think that Luck would be able to get two firsts, a second, and maybe a good player.

I wouldn't trade it though. Would rather just take Luck and build around him in future drafts like the Colts did with Peyton.

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

That being said, Mr. Scot, if you were a betting man, what do you think the odds would be of the Panthers trading the 1st away? That is, if the asking price was met, but not foolish on the other teams part.

[unicar15]

If Luck comes out we are NOT trading that #1 pick. There is no way in hell anyone in their right mind would pass on a talent like him.

[MHS831]

Luck is worth 3 times any other position player in the draft.

[Mr. Scot]

That being said, Mr. Scot, if you were a betting man, what do you think the odds would be of the Panthers trading the 1st away? That is, if the asking price was met, but not foolish on the other teams part.

If Luck comes out, I wouldn't want them to trade the pick. That's kinda the point.

Can you seriously think of anything that would have adequately compensated the Colts for giving up Manning? I can't.

And yet I've heard people say stuff like "Hey, let's trade the number one and maybe we can get a guard, a defensive tackle and a receiver". Seriously? People think a guard, a DT and a WR would be worth giving up the next Peyton Manning? Thank the Lord they're not in charge :nonod:

[Erik Stall]

The only way I'd trade away #1 if Luck comes out is if another promising, young QB is included in the deal, along with a slew of picks.

[Mr. Scot]

And just for the record, teams don't generally make "Herschel Walker" trades anymore, because they don't want to be "that team" like the Vikings were (and GMs don't want to be fired).

[cdandi1]

It would have to take probably 5 first round picks, 3 second round picks and a QB. Essentially, no team would make that trade, therefore creating a price that was too high for anyone, therefore assuring manning.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

And yet I've heard people say stuff like "Hey, let's trade the number one and maybe we can get a guard, a defensive tackle and a receiver". Seriously? People think a guard, a DT and a WR would be worth giving up the next Peyton Manning? Thank the Lord they're not in charge :nonod:

I think those people's opinion of Luck is different. No one is suggesting that we trade the next Peyton Manning because they don't think he's going to be that good. I'm of the opinion that if he comes out we should get him, but people can look at him different and that's fine. You can't compare him to Peyton Manning like it's a foregone conclusion because it's not.

[Kevin Greene]

The only way I'd trade away #1 if Luck comes out is if another promising, young QB is included in the deal, along with a slew of picks.

Agreed, as with the Eli Manning trade. But there are no Phillip Rivers available so no thanks.

[Mr. Scot]

I think those people's opinion of Luck is different. No one is suggesting that we trade the next Peyton Manning because they don't think he's going to be that good. I'm of the opinion that if he comes out we should get him, but people can look at him different and that's fine. You can't compare him to Peyton Manning like it's a foregone conclusion because it's not.

Ah, but what if he is that good?

No, we don't know the future, but think about it in terms of the potential consequences of each choice.

If you keep the pick and draft a QB who turns out to be a bust, yes it's bad. It's also something that a dozen or more successful GMs have done in the past few decades. A setback, for certain, but not an insurmountable one.

On the other hand, if you pass up the next Peyton Manning (or a guy who proves to be even better) then you are officially certified as the biggest moron in the history of pro football and, quite deservedly, laughed out of the league. That's the kind of mistake your career never recovers from.

[Matthias]

On the other hand, if you pass up the next Peyton Manning (or a guy who proves to be even better) then you are officially certified as the biggest moron in the history of pro football and, quite deservedly, laughed out of the league. That's the kind of mistake your career never recovers from.

Agreed. All we need to do is speak with Portland Trail Blazer fans and how they feel about their team passing up Michael Jordan.

So if we do trade the pick, the minimum return I would expect is:

1st

2nd

3rd

1st next year

2nd next year

good player

star player

That is the opening bid for Luck.