Everette Brown (and Mike Goodson) - Worth the first?

[Delhommey]

Here is a quick chart (sorted by sacks obviously) comparing Everette Brown's stats vs every DE drafted in the 1st round in the past three years:

Keep in mind the only two DE's on the list we could have drafted even if we would have kept our original picks would be Lawrence Jackson and Jerry Hughes. Getting Jackson would mean either no Stewart or no Otah of course. Note Jackson recorded 6 sacks for the Lions. He was originally drafted by the Seahawks.

Another often forgotten point is none of these first round DE's came as a packaged deal with a RB that amassed 762 total yards from scrimmage and 3 TD's.

And to save you the time of looking it up before you post who you were screaming for Hurney to draft, rookie Carlos Dunlap was the best young DE (regardless of round) drafted in the last 3 years sacks wise with 9.5.

So, in short, we'd all like to see Brown produce a bit more (and stay healthy), but he's certainly doing better than average for a 1st rounder.

PS: Orakpo is basically a OLB now, thus the inflated tackle #'s.

[The Saltman]

dont forget about mike goodsons 5 fumbles.

[Delhommey]

And his 18,293 times getting the QB killed.

[The Saltman]

im just laughing out how Everette brown has out preformed derrick harvey.

[Matt Foley]

Yeah, but what about hurries? How many times do you watch Brown rushing the QB and you say to yourself, "Hurry!"?

[The Saltman]

that supposed to be a joke?

[Anybodyhome]

The stats are nice, but in reality do you want a first round draft pick to be a situational player who gets on the field for 30% of the defensive plays (in Brown's case- on 3rd downs) or to be a backup (in Goodson's case)?

If I'm using a first rounder on a DE, he better be a starting, full time DE in his second year. Not a situational pass rusher.

If I'm using a first rounder on an RB, he'd better be starting by year 2 as well, not stuck at #3 on the depth chart.

Sorry, I just think in this league and in this age when teams are expected to win now and the prices paid for first and second round draft picks that the players selected in the first 2 rounds need to be starting by their second year, if not their first.

[TarPanther9180]

That's like trying to figure out which is the cleanest pile of poo. There really haven't been many good DE's to come out the past couple of years.

[Delhommey]

So, in other words, you're judging the pick against what you think reality should be rather than reality.

[Urrymonster]

The stats are nice, but in reality do you want a first round draft pick to be a situational player who gets on the field for 30% of the defensive plays (in Brown's case- on 3rd downs) or to be a backup (in Goodson's case)?

If I'm using a first rounder on a DE, he better be a starting, full time DE in his second year. Not a situational pass rusher.

If I'm using a first rounder on an RB, he'd better be starting by year 2 as well, not stuck at #3 on the depth chart.

Sorry, I just think in this league and in this age when teams are expected to win now and the prices paid for first and second round draft picks that the players selected in the first 2 rounds need to be starting by their second year, if not their first.

Brown played in 531 snaps before he was injured, which amounted to 57.1% of total snaps he was available for. If he only played on 3rd down then he would be at 33% at best.

He deserved more playing time considering how abused Brayton was...

[Murph]

The biggest thing that graph tells me is 1st round DE's have a higher bust rate than 1st round QB's.

Andrew Luck FTW!

[Anybodyhome]

Brown played in 531 snaps before he was injured, which amounted to 57.1% of total snaps he was available for. If he only played on 3rd down then he would be at 33% at best.

He deserved more playing time considering how abused Brayton was...

Picky, picky. I knew someone would bring up the fact he plays DE on the punt D team, that's where some of those other plays come from. I wasn't counting punt plays for obvious reasons. He still is not starting nor is he a full time DE.

[countryboi]

im just laughing out how Everette brown has out preformed derrick harvey.

who didnt see that one coming?

[Urrymonster]

Picky, picky. I knew someone would bring up the fact he plays DE on the punt D team, that's where some of those other plays come from. I wasn't counting punt plays for obvious reasons. He still is not starting nor is he a full time DE.

Completely and utterly wrong. They are snaps with the defence, not special teams.