Everette Brown (and Mike Goodson) - Worth the first?

[Anybodyhome]

Completely and utterly wrong. They are snaps with the defence, not special teams.

Of course, you're right. Everette Brown was worth every bit of that first rounder. Keep believing.

[X-Clown]

who didnt see that one coming?

A majority of the huddle, who wanted us to draft Harvey.

[Urrymonster]

Of course, you're right. Everette Brown was worth every bit of that first rounder. Keep believing.

Where did I say that?! No where in this thread have I stated what I think of the trade and as others have pointed out, the other DEs in the class have not exactly performed either.

I was just pointing out to those interested in discussion and formulating non biased opinions of the facts, NOT your close minded thoughts.

You were wrong about him being primarily a third down player and automatically get defensive when proven wrong.

[Anybodyhome]

Where did I say that?! No where in this thread have I stated what I think of the trade and as others have pointed out, the other DEs in the class have not exactly performed either.

I was just pointing out to those interested in discussion and formulating non biased opinions of the facts, NOT your close minded thoughts.

You were wrong about him being primarily a third down player and automatically get defensive when proven wrong.

I wasn't "proven wrong." The guy is primarily a third down situational pass rusher and 4th downer. He got some added playing time this year when Brayton moved into the middle or he was paired up with Charles Johnson.

And I was just pointing out to those interested in discussion and formulating non-biased opinions (which is actually an oxymoron: non-biased opinion) that Everette Brown and Goodson both need to be starting and full time contributing players if they are to live up to a first or second round pick. It's a pretty simple concept, really.

[rayzor]

brown would have gotten more snaps this year if brayton hadn't been around. fox was going to go with vets where ever he could.

i don't mind brown being a situational player providing he improves this coming year. i think he improved from last year for sure. i believe hardy will probably have the start over brown, but brown as a pass rusher will be fine, esp. when compared to other DEs taken so early. having goodson as part of the package makes it a bit more worthwhile.

that said, i'm still not sure that we would have been better off keeping that pick and using it last year, but that probably would just mean that we would have drafted clausen in the first round instead of second.

[MHS831]

It usually takes DEs 2-3 years to get it. Besides, there are some rookies and 3-4 DEs on this list too. I am not that worried about Brown, but I see him as a situational rusher when Hardy learns to stop the run better. Not worried about our DEs.

[OneBadassCat]

I'm expecting him to break out next year.

[rayzor]

yeah, DEs are in good shape. DT is the problem, but that can be addressed really well in FA.

[Kevin Greene]

Perspective.

Charles Johnson, where was he drafted and did we have to give away a top 1st round pick to select him mid 2nd round?

[PantherFanForLife]

You know, not only should some people stop evaluating rookies after their first year as if they're in their last year of their careers, but especially Panther fans with what just took place this past year.

I gotta better idea. Wipe the slots clean, and rate them at the end of their second year. That should be a rule of thumb for ALL rookies. Period.

I can't believe we're so ready to pass judgment. First year comparisons are worthless unless we compare them to other rookies, and even then they are HIGHLY situational and their performance has mostly to do with the teams they landed on. These guys have barely gotten their feet wet, and if you pull them by their ears your fingers will turn green.