Are you happy with the hiring of Ron Rivera?

[riddel]

Fox is gone because he had 3 f**king winning seasons out of 9!!!!! It has nothing to do with money.

Damn son, you are f**king dense. Better hurry along now, I hear the short bus coming down the street.

Prior to Richardson raping of the team in 2010 Fox had a .555 winning percentage or 71-57 and was 5-3 in the playoffs. He had three winning season one superbowl, two NFC championships and one divisional playoff. He had two .500 seasons and three 7-9 seasons.

Now if you're trying to say John Fox is a bad coach, then you need to check into rehab, because you're a crackhead.

It was time for Fox to move on, because Richardson is a buffoon and self imploded his team in 2010 all in the name of collective bargaining. If Richardson had given Fox the tools he needed, then all you haters would be firmly implanted up Foxes anus again.

Richardson killed Fox this year. He did it intentionally. Why can't anyone see this? By the way, .555 winning percentage lands Fox very near the top 30 coaches of all time of coaches who have coached 100 or more games. Yes. I said ALL TIME.

Hatter......Call 1-800-NOCRACK

[riddel]

Gruden took a Dungy team to the SBowl....and then the team got worse every season after that.

Shanahan rode Elways coat tail.....how is that Shanahan hiring going in DC? Not so good.

Crackhead!

Gruden beat Oakland in the superbowl....the team he coached prior to winning with Tampa!

Shanahan is in the top 10 coaches of all time at .672 and Elway was only there for half his career. Denver has was always great with Shanahan there. Are you really gonna give Shanahan a hard time for the DC experience? He hasn't had time to turn it around and he has a moron for an owner there, kinda like Richardson, but the opposite, in that he spends way too much on spoiled milk, while Richardson won't even stock the fridge!

[Darth Bobo]

I agree with Riddel that Fox was an awesome coach prior to the 2010 season. I was one of the few posters on this forum that believed that Fox would be given a competitive offer by Richardson at the end of this season, but I was wrong and I've been mulling over why that offer wasn't extended. I do not agree that the reason was money, because coaches salary are not included under any cap.

To speculate on why Fox wasn't rehired, I have to conclude that Richardson was being totally sincere in his last press conference: Fox is loyal to his veteran players to a fault. One aspect of that loyalty was that rookies didn't get much of a shot, but there were other manifestations of that loyalty too.

On the positive side, Fox's loyalty was a great personal trait as a human being, we could see it in the way he solved personnel issues face-to-face with players out of the limelight, off the sidelines. He was a player's coach(cliche I know).

On the negative side, his loyalty was a bad professional trait. He couldn't let Dan Morgan go long after he was done. He continued to waste a spot on Dwayne Jarrett, Kerry Colbert, etc. Some of this is on the GM too, and I'm not sure what we fans do with that fact....

But Fox's lack of professional severance was excerbated this year when Richardson was essentially forced to trim an exceptionally large amount of accumulated roster fat as a businessman. This is dictated not only by the CBA, but by the fact we were losing competitive edge in a division of successful and financially robust opponents who had started from scratch in previous years. Richardson had to make a business decision, and he could choose to do it half-assed, or balls to the wall full throttle. The more committed he was, the harder the change would be for Fox.

The complex repurcussions of the uncapped year, plus the vital need for a fortified negotiating position against the NFLPA was a double whammy at odds with Fox's character, and that is why I think he's gone.

[Happy Panther]

Seems good on paper.

But I agree with the steak analogy.

And to take it further its like being happy about your steak that hasn't come yet that you picked off a menu with the choices of "Steak, Livermush, Black Pudding, and pig tongue."

Man that steak was clearly better than the other choices!

Would have been nice if Lobster and Veal Picatta were on the menu as well if you know what i mean.

[MadHatter]

Crackhead!

Gruden beat Oakland in the superbowl....the team he coached prior to winning with Tampa!

Shanahan is in the top 10 coaches of all time at .672 and Elway was only there for half his career. Denver has was always great with Shanahan there. Are you really gonna give Shanahan a hard time for the DC experience? He hasn't had time to turn it around and he has a moron for an owner there, kinda like Richardson, but the opposite, in that he spends way too much on spoiled milk, while Richardson won't even stock the fridge!

Dumbfug....that is exactly why Gruden beat Oakland. He knew the team backwards and forwards.

What part of 3 winning seasons in 9 can you not understand. I will dumb it down for you.....3 out 9 nine is BAD.

[Guest Setfree1012]

I like it.

[bleys]

Why is Fox gone?

Because Richardson is cheap and wanted leverage during the collective bargaining agreement. It's really that simple.

Fox's salary was $6 mill per year. How was Richardson going to negotiate with the players when his coach made a top 10 salary. So, what does Richardson do? He allows 8 starters to walk, with NO compensation and then replaces them with rookies and backups. Then he tells Fox to deal with it. Fox was screwed, the veterans were screwed and the fans were screwed.

Richardson screwed us all. Now he's gone cheap again and all you cool aid drinkers think he's found the next great Head Coach. Well, Rivera missed out on 8 other head coaching jobs for a reason, so why is he than man now? Oh, I know, the price was right!

no starter that left was better than the backup. but carry on with your inaccurate crusade..

[g5jamz]

My excitement will be dependent upon the direction he takes the offense.

[CRA]

Why is Fox gone?

Because Richardson is cheap and wanted leverage during the collective bargaining agreement. It's really that simple.

Fox's salary was $6 mill per year. How was Richardson going to negotiate with the players when his coach made a top 10 salary. So, what does Richardson do? He allows 8 starters to walk, with NO compensation and then replaces them with rookies and backups. Then he tells Fox to deal with it. Fox was screwed, the veterans were screwed and the fans were screwed.

Richardson screwed us all. Now he's gone cheap again and all you cool aid drinkers think he's found the next great Head Coach. Well, Rivera missed out on 8 other head coaching jobs for a reason, so why is he than man now? Oh, I know, the price was right!

the 2010 season has nothing to do with why Fox is gone.

Fox lost his job essentially after the 2009 season ended. Jerry told him enough was enough and he had to win. Jerry paid Peppers millions a game, Jake huge money, and gave Fox all the old guys he wanted. Fox didn't win. Fox was fired.

Jerry allowed Fox to comeback for his last yr on his contract if he couldn't find another job (he was encouraged to find a job). Fox was already done in Carolina before the 2010 season began. Fox being fired/let go had nothing to do with the 2010 (2-14) season.

Fox being let go had to do with his collective resume from (2002-2009).

[pantherfan81]

Sounds like Beason's happy

http://tinyurl.com/6c7vuph

[bleys]

at the end of the day, results are all that matter.. until 2-3 years from now when we have those results, I don't see how anyone isn't ecstatic to have this guy as our coach.

[Happy Panther]

Sounds like Beason's happy

http://tinyurl.com/6c7vuph

That was certainly well written

[riddel]

Dumbf**k....that is exactly why Gruden beat Oakland. He knew the team backwards and forwards.

What part of 3 winning seasons in 9 can you not understand. I will dumb it down for you.....3 out 9 nine is BAD.

Oh....you're right....Gruden just showed up for the very last game of the season, the superbowl game, to coach Tampa past Oakland......dang.....why didn't I remember that?

Crack is whack.....hatter....crack is whack.

You keep drinking the Richardson cool aid and believe that Fox was a bad coach. Since you're into the Richardson spin....let's spin it this way....Fox only had 3 losing season out of 8 and by a total of 3 games for those 3 seasons, meaning Fox was 3 games from not having a SINGLE losing season. Prior to 2010's strip down, his winning % ranked in the top of active NFL coaches.

I'd rather get off the Fox subject and get back to the real problem. Richardson. He is cheap and disconnected from NFL reality. He's a business man looking to save a buck during hard times and letting the fans pay the price.

Rivera may be a good coach. Who knows? It's a crap shoot. I'd rather Richardson have hired a proven winner who could bring a coaching staff in that would effect IMMEDIATE change and a winning culture.

[Kurb]

riddle thinks average is just as acceptable as good