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he's talking about the replacement players playing instead of the actual players on the 53 man roster. I don't know for sure, but I think it's the practice squad guys that get to go out and play, if indeed there is any playing at all. That's what happened in 1987 when the players went on strike and there was a lockout. It was only for like 3 weeks, and those games ended up counting towards their teams records when it came to the postseason, draft order, etc. I don't know if that is actually going to happen or not, but if it is, this is what they're referring to when they say scrub players.

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The biggest myth right now in the NFL is that the only option for the owners is to force a lockout. That is not the case.

The owners and claim that the negociations have stalled (and the NFLPA is playing right into the owners hands on this one) and present to the Labor board their "last, best offer". At this point in time the NFLPA will have two options, accept the deal or strike.

If they strike, the owners will use replacement players just like they did in 87. It's not about needing to use them to make money off the games being played, it's the fact that America will watch them and thus the use of them will become a negociating weapon in bringing down the NFLPA.

The players never had much of a chance in this. They are placing all of their hopes in that the US court system will defy all past rulings and see the NFL as one corperation and a group of owners. Thats the only way the players will get what they want and those chances are not really likely.

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The biggest myth right now in the NFL is that the only option for the owners is to force a lockout. That is not the case.

The owners and claim that the negociations have stalled (and the NFLPA is playing right into the owners hands on this one) and present to the Labor board their "last, best offer". At this point in time the NFLPA will have two options, accept the deal or strike.

If they strike, the owners will use replacement players just like they did in 87. It's not about needing to use them to make money off the games being played, it's the fact that America will watch them and thus the use of them will become a negociating weapon in bringing down the NFLPA.

The players never had much of a chance in this. They are placing all of their hopes in that the US court system will defy all past rulings and see the NFL as one corperation and a group of owners. Thats the only way the players will get what they want and those chances are not really likely.

so if the players are fuged why are even doing this?

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he's talking about the replacement players playing instead of the actual players on the 53 man roster. I don't know for sure, but I think it's the practice squad guys that get to go out and play, if indeed there is any playing at all. That's what happened in 1987 when the players went on strike and there was a lockout. It was only for like 3 weeks, and those games ended up counting towards their teams records when it came to the postseason, draft order, etc. I don't know if that is actually going to happen or not, but if it is, this is what they're referring to when they say scrub players.

The difference this time is the owners are threatening. In '87 it was the players that went on strike. As was stated the owners will get paid with or without football, the players won't.

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so if the players are fuged why are even doing this?

There not. They got a great deal under the old CBA. The owners are the ones backing out of the deal and now forcing a new one to be settled on.

The players don't want any changes to the old CBA and would be just as happy to see it stay the same (aside from the fact the old CBA gave the league the right to go to a 18 game regular season, players aren't mentioning that one right now.) The owners are the ones that want changes made. The dumb move was that the NFLPA gave the owners the right to do this in the old CBA. The players were banking on the "fact" that owners would allow an uncapped year in fear of never again having the cap.

The players and the NFLPA took a deal back in 2006 that really set them up come 2011. The owners hold all the cards right now and the players gave them to the owners.

There's not going to be a lockout by the way. Either the owner will make their "best, last offer" or the NFLPA will decertify. Eitherway a lockout will not happen.

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