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Cat Scratch Reader article about what offense we will run.

eViL jEsTeR

By eViL jEsTeR,
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Zod Grand Master

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The panthers only pass more than run when they are playing from behind, which has been a lot for a few seasons.

Hopefully, that will not be the case this year.

Best case scenario: Effective run game, play action passes, lots of clock running well rested defense wins.

Worst case scenario: 2010 repeat

Chances of the panthers airing it out on offense: slim

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I don't think you can take an offense that has been predicated on the Run (as the Panthers have been) and expect them to be remotely successful in an air it out system. The Panthers have one of the best stables of runningbacks in the league and to ignore that would be idiotic... especially with such a sub-par group of WRs and QBs.

That offense passed 53% of the time last year. 50% of the catches were by receivers. When Chud ran his system in Cleveland, the offense passed 55% of the time, but roughly 40% of the catches were by receivers. So he got the ball in the hands of the backs and tight ends more often.

Which is the one predicated on a strong running game?

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The panthers only pass more than run when they are playing from behind, which has been a lot for a few seasons.

Hopefully, that will not be the case this year.

Best case scenario: Effective run game, play action passes, lots of clock running well rested defense wins.

Worst case scenario: 2010 repeat

Chances of the panthers airing it out on offense: slim

The primary complaint from Browns fans who hated Chudzinski: "He passes too much".

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The panthers only pass more than run when they are playing from behind, which has been a lot for a few seasons.

Hopefully, that will not be the case this year.

Best case scenario: Effective run game, play action passes, lots of clock running well rested defense wins.

Worst case scenario: 2010 repeat

Chances of the panthers airing it out on offense: slim

I totally agree with the scenarios. I think that we do a lot of short passes to the backs though, which may be running plays but count as passes on the stat sheet.

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That offense passed 53% of the time last year. 50% of the catches were by receivers.

Because the offense was playing from behind 90% of the time.

Which is the one predicated on a strong running game?

The Panthers' offense was. Are you questioning that? How successful were the Panthers with that 53% passing/47% running scheme?

Yeah...

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I don't think you can take an offense that has been predicated on the Run (as the Panthers have been) and expect them to be remotely successful in an air it out system. The Panthers have one of the best stables of runningbacks in the league and to ignore that would be idiotic... especially with such a sub-par group of WRs and QBs.

Just because it's a Coryell system doesn't mean that it will rely on constant downfield passing.

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Look back at offenses like the Cowboys under Turner, the Chargers under Turner, the Browns under Chudzinski and even the Panthers under Henning (with Wesley Walls on roster) and you'll see a certain phrase used a lot when talking about the tight ends.

It's "security blanket".

Jay Novacek, Antonio Gates, Kellen Winslow and Walls...all those guys were safety valves for their quarterbacks when they needed them.

Post Walls, the words you most associated with the tight end position under John Fox in Carolina were "extra blocker".

If nothing else changes, I think we can pretty much guarantee that will.

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Because the offense was playing from behind 90% of the time.

The Panthers' offense was. Are you questioning that? How successful were the Panthers with that 53% passing/47% running scheme?

Yeah...

They weren't successful at all, was I suggesting that they were? They weren't successful in 2009 either, when they were at 50/50. And this isn't a Jeff Davidson offense any more anyway, it's Chud's. You can look at what he's done in the past, even when he had a great running game, or you can ignore it and assume we will run 60% of the time (which also goes counter to what Rivera suggested in his first interview).

I'm expecting a Coryell system with a lot of short to mid-range passes run on timing routes. I'm basing that on everything that's been said (nothing said contradicts that), the experience of all the offensive assistants, and on what Chud has done before. And it's all a guess.

So why not tell me what you think they're going to run? It's just a guess, after all. Make one. :)

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Yes it is. The foundation of the "Air Coryell" system is built around mid to long range passing with 5 receivers going through sets.

In a strict foundational sense, the Air Coryell system is based on a balance of power running and vertical passing. However, being that it is a system that has been around for a long time, there are many variations and adaptations to fit it to it's current system. This is why many teams run a Coryell and look vastly different while doing so. Just because you run a Coryell doesn't mean you will be throwing over 20 yards on every pass attempt, or use predominantly 5 WR sets.

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