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I have no problem waiting to see on Shedeur. My problem is the blowback at any suggestion of anyone other than Bryce when he and his stans have had us waiting for almost 3 full years for some semblance of average QB play. Bryce deserves nothing. He has earned nothing with his play. Far better QBs and players in the history of the NFL have lost their opportunity over far, far less. All this coddling and protecting is ridiculous. I don’t know if Shedeur will be great. I am confident he will be, at minimum, solid for the entirety of his career, and being a rookie, I believe he could be much more based off what he is showing. But, at the end of the day, if Shedeur ends up washing out? Cool. Doesn’t hurt my feelings. I’m basing my opinion off of what I see and what the stats say. Does he have some flaws? Sure. But (almost) every QB does. What he is doing as a rookie is damn impressive. In a handful of games as a rookie, he has made plays that we didn’t see from Bryce for almost two full seasons. I look at his deep throws the last few weeks, and I even heard someone recently comment on it with my same exact thoughts - he is throwing guys open. And on the deep throws, he is letting them catch it in stride. Then I look at stuff like changing of the arm angle, adjusting velocity and angle, etc., The last TD he threw that was contested, he was under immediate pressure and he changed his arm slot and layered the ball into the receiver to give him a chance to make a play. And then he’s hit guys in stride 50 yards downfield. The receivers didn’t have to wait for it, didn’t have to slow up, the throw didn’t allow the defender back in the play, it didn’t carry the receiver off his line. We didn’t see these things from Bryce until, imo, the games this year, in year three. That run last season, he was not making the throws he’s making this season in his good games. The deep throws against the Rams, imo, were his best placed throws of his career on deep balls. And that’s not immediacy bias, i also feel that way because these games count, unlike the end of season stretch last year. So again, it’s taken him three years to make throws that guys like Dart, Shedeur, and Shough are making as rookies. And yet, a huge faction of our fanbase believe Bryce should be held in some sort of reverence for being the worst starting QB in the league over the last three seasons. It’s insane. and again, to be clear, I want Bryce to figure it out finally, if it’s possible for him to do so. Put together a storybook run and let’s win the whole thing… but, due to your resume, we’re still gonna bring in competition next season. Period. -
Just had his best game? The Panthers did have their best win in terms of quality of opponent. Reality is, Bryce Young was treated like a backup QB for almost the entire game vs the Rams. It's yet another example of a long run of oddities come to life for Bryce on the year. Almost this weird The Golden Calf of Bristol season weirdness where it clearly is not good QB play but randomness resulting in a random season overall. Canales frankly called 2 really dumb calls on 4th down and it worked out terrifically. I mean, credit Bryce for making the plays, sure. But I don't think 2 wild gambles really erase everything else. I mean, take out the 4th down oddities and he was at 130 yards on the day (with a lot of YAC). -
By kungfoodude · Posted
I mean, did Bryce ever become a prince for more than a game or two at a time? I am not advocating in any way, shape or form for Sanders as a starter. If he was available for nickels and could compete in camp, I would be fine having him. I don't view him as any sort of savior and he is another guy that has some legit physical limitations and a TON of work to do getting faster and more decisive with his reads. I can't say given sample size he is better than Bryce....yet. But that ain't much in the way of bars to clear. Hence why I am so perplexed by the Kyler arguments here. I mean.....who in the world would even question the fact that he is a better QB than Bryce? And, once again, that doesn't make him good. It makes him better than one of the worst starting QB's in the past 5 or so years.
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