Want ot wait till after the first round to get a QB??

[teeray]

People's main problem is the best QBs in this draft would be the 5-9 QBs in the next draft, give or take.

Do you see the point?

Whether you agree or not is not as important as you seeing the other vantage point.

I 1,000,000% disagree with that. Cam Newton would likely be a top three QB no matter what draft he went in. Even if the talking heads didn't have him as high he would have been drafted way high no matter who was in this draft.

Considering 6 teams (that we know of) has him the number 1 overall player (not QB, player) in this draft I feel comfortable saying that.

BTW one of the main reasons that Cam's stock is soaring with guys like Mel Kiper, is because these guys are talking to scouts and GM's who are giving super high feedback.

[TheRealDeal]

I 1,000,000% disagree with that.

I wouldn't expect anything less out of you. You are a Cam fan, we get it. Chill out till the combine.

[TheRealDeal]

I see their point, but I think that their view is skewed from what it normally would be because of Andrew Luck. Hypothetically, if Andrew Luck never existed, then I think people would have no problem with Cam Newton being the first overall pick.

That's a fair assessment but Barkley is also a big prototypical passer that many teams might like more than Newton as well.

[teeray]

I wouldn't expect anything less out of you. You are a Cam fan, we get it. Chill out till the combine.

So are at least 6 NFL teams.

And I am not a Cam Newton fan I am a Panthers fan. I just strongly believe he should be our pick. And every bogus stupid reason that has been given to not pick him has been debunked or overstated.

With the exception of the character stuff.

[TheRealDeal]

So are at least 6 NFL teams.

And I am not a Cam Newton fan I am a Panthers fan. I just strongly believe he should be our pick. And every bogus stupid reason that has been given to not pick him has been debunked or overstated.

With the exception of the character stuff.

You are using the personal media workout saying that these reasons have been debunked which is not true at all. Neither has the offensive philosophy, his ability to read a defense, his ability to take drops and stay in the pocket, his ability to shift his weight from back to front quicker, etc.

None have been bebunked. If they were all debunked and no one had questions about him, wouldn't he be #1 on more boards than just 6?

[teeray]

You are using the personal media workout saying that these reasons have been debunked which is not true at all. Neither has the offensive philosophy, his ability to read a defense, his ability to take drops and stay in the pocket, his ability to shift his weight from back to front quicker, etc.

None have been bebunked. If they were all debunked and no one had questions about him, wouldn't he be #1 on more boards than just 6?

I is "att least 6" which means it could be more.

[rayzor]

I don't want a dude who was caught with a stolen lap top, caught cheating at college (several times), issued 12 traffic citations in 2 years and investigated by the SEC and NCAA in a pay for play scheme.

Criminal in training, no thank you.

either trolling or narrow minded.

either way it's pretty petty and weak.

[YourMomsLover]

either trolling or narrow minded.

either way it's pretty petty and weak.

JOAT trolling? :rolleyes:

[rayzor]

I wouldn't expect anything less out of you. You are a Cam fan, we get it. Chill out till the combine.

you don't want newton discussed until after the combine. chill out until then.

if you don't like people saying positive things about newton then stay out of those threads. if you don't want any discussion about him, quit discussing him and avoid the subject.

it's easy enough for you to do unless you are obsessed with him for some reason.

if you don't think anything should be talked about until the combine then quit talking about him. it's not hurting you that there are still conversations about him going on.

no one is going to talk about someone or not talk about someone because of you. you are irrelevant and insignificant until you quit posting this same stuff over and over (and maybe for a good while after that).

[rayzor]

JOAT trolling? :rolleyes:

it's one or the other.

he doesn't want us to draft a QB. he's made it abundantly clear that they would be dumb for doing so....yet he keeps posting the same crap over and over. he's been doing that for months. hasn't really had anything worth contributing so he just keeps on being a broken record.

he thinks that some kid making mistakes a few years ago, pretty minor mistakes at that in the whole scheme of things along with allegations that have never been proven to be true makes someone a criminal in training...even though he has kept his nose clean since leaving florida.

either he's wanting to piss people off with that pettiness (aka trolling) or he's being really petty.

also seems pretty funny that he is baiting KT. JOAT has been power tripping for a long time so it's not out of the ordinary for him to pull that crap. he's looking for someone to ban.

[SorthNarolina]

as far as drafting a QB, go big or go home. I'm not on a 1st round QB bandwagon yet but I would run around downtown Charlotte naked on-fire if we drafted a QB round 2/3.

[TheRealDeal]

......blah blah blah....

It's not so much the fact that people are discussing him because he's very interesting, but the whole idea that anything not 100% positive about him that is said is considered blasphemy is ridiculous. Those people saying "he's debunked" everything negative about him before the combine even starts? Because some media workout? Come on.

Other people are discussing Cam in a great way, talking about pros and cons, even the Cam nuthuggers can sometimes see how there could be a negative about him and admit that it will be explored, which is fine, but then others only want great things said about him and it's silly.

[Jackofalltrades]

So people need to allow positive remarks and opinions about Newton, but no one is allowed to speak against him? Seems a bit hypocritical.

Petty? Newton's character concerns are on everyone's radar, his background will be checked very thoroughly- it's a concern for everyone, that's why it's constantly brought up and not just by me.

There's nothing pety about his pattern of behavior. If it was one incident that would be petty, but he showing a penchant for making bad decisions off the field.

I didn't bait KT, didn't need to. He's always ready to travel that road and the pavement came out from under him.

[YourMomsLover]

It was be absolutely amazing if we got a Matt Cassel in the 7th...but only the Pats would be able to pull that off. :(