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Panthers Bringing in Newton for Visit

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I'm an ACC guy so I use a lot of basketball analogies so I am sorry in advance,

Len Bias and Ralph Sampson's best seasons statistically dwarfed Michael Jordan, Christian Laettner's, and Tyler Hanbrough's best seasons. But when people talk about the best player in ACC basketball history, why do Michael, Tyler, David Thompson, and Christian's names come up first???

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no, what he was meaing was that although BB was the coach and he views cam as one way. his qb views him another way. and basically you can be a winner on the stats page, but if you cant win the big one who gives a fug about you.

What are you talking about? He said guys are judged on championships. According to that logic, Dilfer is better than Marino

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I'm an ACC guy so I use a lot of basketball analogies so I am sorry in advance,

Len Bias and Ralph Sampson's best seasons statistically dwarfed Michael Jordan, Christian Laettner's, and Tyler Hanbrough's best seasons. But when people talk about the best player in ACC basketball history, why do Michael, Tyler, David Thompson, and Christian's names come up first???

I have no clue, but Im freakin bouncing off the walls knowing its not about race!

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I saw the NFL Network interview of Ron Rivera, and he's either doing a hell of an acting job, or he is seriously considering Newton.

And FTR, Kalil said that he liked Newton too. Somebody needs to ask Smitty, Gettis, and LaFell. I would be very interested to hear their opinions.

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I saw the NFL Network interview of Ron Rivera, and he's either doing a hell of an acting job, or he is seriously considering Newton.

And FTR, Kalil said that he liked Newton too. Somebody needs to ask Smitty, Gettis, and LaFell. I would be very interested to hear their opinions.

I can go ahead an tell you Smith is happy with anyone that will not check down and get him the damn ball. IMO if you double Smith you leave a big damn gap open for Newton to burn you for 10 to 15 yards.

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Now does that guarantee success at the next level? Of course not but neither does what Luck did at Stanford and yet he is hyped as the best qb in decades. The bottom line to me is he brings to the table the 3 things I want in a franchise QB.

It's not what Luck did at Stanford stats wise but what he showed that will transfer to the NFL level. How do you not understand this?

You must be referring to the Arkansas game when they didn't put a defense on the field. And yeah he did pick up the slack.

Good thing his defense and running back showed up in the national championship game because those errant throws, pick, and late fumble would have been costly if he was the only player on the team. I mean Fairley sure didn't do anything to disrupt Oregon's offense and the running back going for 100+ was no help either. Bums.

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It's not what Luck did at Stanford stats wise but what he showed that will transfer to the NFL level. How do you not understand this?

Actually I do understand that. How do you not understand that no player is a sure thing making the transition from college to NFL and that includes the almighty Luck?

To be clear I was thrilled with the possibility of getting Luck but the way people talk its like the guy could walk on water.

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Actually I do understand that. How do you not understand that no player is a sure thing making the transition from college to NFL and that includes the almighty Luck?

To be clear I was thrilled with the possibility of getting Luck but the way people talk its like the guy could walk on water.

Haha you act like I wanted Luck. I was the one saying he's only getting hyped that much because every other QB coming out was terrible and the gap between them made Luck look much better than I think he is. He's still a far better prospect compared to Cam and Blaine but he's no sure thing.

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It's not what Luck did at Stanford stats wise but what he showed that will transfer to the NFL level. How do you not understand this?

Good thing his defense and running back showed up in the national championship game because those errant throws, pick, and late fumble would have been costly if he was the only player on the team. I mean Fairley sure didn't do anything to disrupt Oregon's offense and the running back going for 100+ was no help either. Bums.

Yeah his 320+ yard 2 touchdown 60% completion performance that was his worst game of the second half of the season was a real stinker.

And I'm not taking anything away from the rest of the team. They all deserve credit. But don't act like the Heisman Trophy winner and a guy who had two td's was just carried by their dominate defense as if Auburn won in spite of Cam.

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Haha you act like I wanted Luck. I was the one saying he's only getting hyped that much because every other QB coming out was terrible and the gap between them made Luck look much better than I think he is. He's still a far better prospect compared to Cam and Blaine but he's no sure thing.

Who do you wan to QB this team going into the future?? Just curious.

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Not getting into the argument, but can't really judge based on championships. It's a team game, Cam didn't win by himself.

Honestly, I'm surprised anyone uses the whole "national championship/Heisman trophy" thing as an argument.

If you take a look at the names of the guys that have done those things over the past 10-20 years, you'll see the vast majority of them did nothing in the NFL (if they even made it).

Folks arguing those things as if they meant something make me chuckle.

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