Canales and Mike White

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Just look at the JAG's Cam had to work with and he excelled. No more excuses.

Well that is the difference between Cam and a lot of QB's. I certainly hope no one is confusing Bryce with an elite QB talent anymore.

The remaining Bryce question is really if he is even an NFL starting QB.

[Gapanthersfan]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I am gonna say that I don't know that all of the top 15 QB's would this offense cooking. Not only due to fit but I also have yet to be super impressed with DC the playcaller.

For all the talk of DC being hamstrung by Bryce, I am not convinced he is a terribly adept OC. 

Not saying the bulk of our offensive struggles are not primarily Bryce but I wouldn't be so sure an upgrade at QB would instantly turn us into an elite offense. I still question DC.

Also, I will point out that most top 15 QB's would not be super pleased to be looking at the prospect of our WR Corps and TE group. 

I have very little faith in DC the play caller, but much like the rest of the offense, he is afforded a bit of a mulligan. Opposing defenses have no respect for BY’s game, and why should they? There is a big chunk of DC’s playbook that is completely useless. I firmly believe the moment this franchise gets a dude that can make throws defenses are forced to respect, everything will change… and it’s not about just chucking bombs. It’s about getting passes where they need to go with good velocity having to throw off balance. 

We’ve seen it unfold every week and it’s the same thing. Same formula. Pressure up the middle, make him roll out to the left and dare him to throw. This is where he’ll eat a jersey tug sack, dirt a ball, throw it out, or take a 3 yard dump off. Very rarely does anything productive occur. 

Bryce does not have the arm strength to deliver an NFL level throw unless he has a clean pocket and perfect mechanics.  

A QB who at least challenges defenses with velocity, I believe, will change circumstances for the better. Now am I saying White will be an upgrade from our current situation? Doubtful. Very doubtful, but the longer the BY marriage is allowed to continue, the more likely it is to stick around.

[Gapanthersfan]

24 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Just look at the JAG's Cam had to work with and he excelled. No more excuses.

EXACTLY

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I have very little faith in DC the play caller, but much like the rest of the offense, he is afforded a bit of a mulligan. Opposing defenses have no respect for BY’s game, and why should they? There is a big chunk of DC’s playbook that is completely useless. I firmly believe the moment this franchise gets a dude that can make throws defenses are forced to respect, everything will change… and it’s not about just chucking bombs. It’s about getting passes where they need to go with good velocity having to throw off balance. 

We’ve seen it unfold every week and it’s the same thing. Same formula. Pressure up the middle, make him roll out to the left and dare him to throw. This is where he’ll eat a jersey tug sack, dirt a ball, throw it out, or take a 3 yard dump off. Very rarely does anything productive occur. 

Bryce does not have the arm strength to deliver an NFL level throw unless he has a clean pocket and perfect mechanics.  

A QB who at least challenges defenses with velocity, I believe, will change circumstances for the better. Now am I saying White will be an upgrade from our current situation? Doubtful. Very doubtful, but the longer the BY marriage is allowed to continue, the more likely it is to stick around.

Well he didn't dramatically change when he was over Bryce last year. I think this is literally just his offense.