Bryce Slinging Dots Downfield

[Navy_football]

15 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

The defender on the ball side of the WR with no safety help is the equivalent to a practice throw with no defender in terms of the throw itself, which is what I was saying.  That is a throw where the QB is supposed to just loft it for the WR to run under for the catch, as long as the QB doesn't choke and way short the ball, the DB has no bearing on that throw, just like a practice throw with no DB at all.

And the same goes for the T-Mac throw as well, no safety help with the defender on the ball side of T-Mac.  All he had to do was feather the ball over the top for T-Mac to run under.

Stafford missed that same throw to his TE earlier in the game. Lofted it right out of bounds. And he was actually wide open. TMac was far from wide open before the ball was released and the CB was in perfect position. The pass was in a place the CB didn't expect it to be for that pass. 

[Car123]

22 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The time for that was week 1. This is essentially a contract year. Based on his body of work as a whole, are you ready to lock him in as your starting QB for the next 5 years at 45m AAV, because that's where we are. 

We are not locking him this offseason. It really depends on next year. I am sure we’re picking up that 5th year option though unless he plays like year one Bryce to finish up the season.

Edited 46 minutes ago by Car123

[mrBdawg]

8 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Stafford missed that same throw to his TE earlier in the game. Lofted it right out of bounds. And he was actually wide open. TMac was far from wide open before the ball was released and the CB was in perfect position. The pass was in a place the CB didn't expect it to be for that pass. 

I was gonna post this exact same screenshot lol. I made this entire thread as bait bc I kept seeing people bashing our quarterback and giving him no credit for making these ‘routine’ throws to ‘wide open’ receivers.

It was 4th and 3 with the game on the line and Bryce went for it all. I mean he threw McMillan open. All that space you see on the TV angle was created by the throw. I get he is frustrating and sucks a good portion of the time but the throws he made in those big moments today were tremendous.

[Car123]

18 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Stafford missed that same throw to his TE earlier in the game. Lofted it right out of bounds. And he was actually wide open. TMac was far from wide open before the ball was released and the CB was in perfect position. The pass was in a place the CB didn't expect it to be for that pass. 

The haters will say it’s photoshop or will double down and still call it blown coverage

Edited 44 minutes ago by Car123

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, mrBdawg said:

I was gonna post this exact same screenshot lol. I made this entire thread as bait bc I kept seeing people bashing our quarterback and giving him no credit for making these ‘routine’ throws to ‘wide open’ receivers.

It was 4th and 3 with the game on the line and Bryce went for it all. I mean he threw McMillan open. All that space you see on the TV angle was created by the throw. I get he is frustrating and sucks a good portion of the time but the throws he made in those big moments today were tremendous.

vs Matt Stafford's actual wide open that sailed out of bounds:

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Car123 said:

We are not locking him this offseason. It really depends on next year. I am sure we’re picking up that 5th year option though.

If he cannot string together 2 good games in a row nothing is a certainty.  That said I think the bye comes at a great time and we stream roll the saints who appear to be tanking.  Then things get real.

 

But if we are judging Bryce and the panthers future on the last three games then doesnt that tell you all you need to know?  Didnt we just do this at the end of last year and we see what happened again at the start of the season?

 

I would take the calculated risk of not picking up the 5th, cut dalton, bring a dude in and its imperative you draft a guy in the mid/early rounds

 

If bryce blows up next year then franchise him or cut him a fair deal but really man what does bryce blowing up look like after we have seen him for 40 games?

[Car123]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If he cannot string together 2 good games in a row nothing is a certainty.  That said I think the bye comes at a great time and we stream roll the saints who appear to be tanking.  Then things get real.

 

But if we are judging Bryce and the panthers future on the last three games then doesnt that tell you all you need to know?  Didnt we just do this at the end of last year and we see what happened again at the start of the season?

 

I would take the calculated risk of not picking up the 5th, cut dalton, bring a dude in and its imperative you draft a guy in the mid/early rounds

 

If bryce blows up next year then franchise him or cut him a fair deal but really man what does bryce blowing up look like after we have seen him for 40 games?

Nobody in the market will be better than Bryce Young. Management will not want another Mayfield/Darnold situation. 5th year option is low risk/high reward

[mrBdawg]

43 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, he can make some nice passes here and there. He's always been able to. Now we need to see him do it consistently and I still need to see him be able to handle pressure up the middle. That's Bryce's real Achilles heel. He can play well when he doesn't have pressure in his face and the field is clean in front of him. We already know this.

Those are absolutely fair criticisms. You are definitely a lot more reasonable with your assessment of Bryce than others on here. 

A lot of people here are majorly downplaying any good plays he makes and refuse to give any credit where it’s due. Some others are just spewing vitriol towards our quarterback and I find it pretty odd, especially when we’re winning

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Car123 said:

Nobody in the market will be better than Bryce Young. Management will not want another Mayfield/Darnold situation. 5th year option is low risk/high reward

You are essentially tying yourself to Bryce as a starter for the next 2 years.  What have you seen from him that would warrant this?   Dave and Dan would be anchoring their careers to him and if its a perpetual 7ish win season in 26 and 27 then thats probably their ass

[CBDellinger]

54 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Because you don't bring in competition if you're paying your QB 27m.

yeah I dont agree with that.  teams bring in competition all the time.  picking up the 5th doesnt mean hes here forever, just buys the team some time.

good thing is the decision makers on Mint St dont have to decide today.

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, mrBdawg said:

Those are absolutely fair criticisms. You are definitely a lot more reasonable with your assessment of Bryce than others on here. 

A lot of people here are majorly downplaying any good plays he makes and refuse to give any credit where it’s due. Some others are just spewing vitriol towards our quarterback and I find it pretty odd, especially when we’re winning

I havent seen one poster downplay the two great throws he has made. You are trying to troll and argue for the sake of trolling and arguing and you literally just admitted to trolling which in a former life on here would get you banned.  But good luck to you

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, mrBdawg said:

Those are absolutely fair criticisms. You are definitely a lot more reasonable with your assessment of Bryce than others on here. 

A lot of people here are majorly downplaying any good plays he makes and refuse to give any credit where it’s due. Some others are just spewing vitriol towards our quarterback and I find it pretty odd, especially when we’re winning

If Bryce played like he did yesterday consistently I wouldn't have a problem with it. He's never going to be a guy who thrives off of insistently pushing the ball down the field or driving the ball into tight spots. He can still play well if he can make a few of those throws per game to keep the D honest it just honestly gives us a smaller margin of error as an overall offense and team versus most NFL QBs. It just is what it is. Bryce has to be almost perfect given his skill set and that's why he struggles with consistency. He just has a much smaller margin of error than a QB with better physical tools.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, CBDellinger said:

yeah I dont agree with that.  teams bring in competition all the time.  picking up the 5th doesnt mean hes here forever, just buys the team some time.

good thing is the decision makers on Mint St dont have to decide today.

 

not saying you are wrong but do you have an example of this?  would love to see the circumstances of a scenario like that.

[Car123]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You are essentially tying yourself to Bryce as a starter for the next 2 years.  What have you seen from him that would warrant this?   Dave and Dan would be anchoring their careers to him and if its a perpetual 7ish win season in 26 and 27 then thats probably their ass

He doesn’t have to be a guaranteed starter for the entire year. We can bring in an adequate backup to put pressure on him. He has shown progression each year. I expect even better next season.

Edited 33 minutes ago by Car123