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Why does Bryce get the blame?

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hence, "the usual suspects".

I get "entrenched" to a certain point, but football can be incredibly fluid. Things change a lot, and sometimes rather quickly.

"Personal" though? That I don't get so much. Bring a passionate fan is cool, but I'm not gonna change my feelings about somebody over a sports discussion.

Hell, I don't even hate most rival fans...except Cowboy fans. 

(but I can't say that out loud) 😐

I have been attacked personally over my Bryce opinions, for years, and I am stubborn, but fair as I know how to be when he does something right. 
Got called for being an evil bad person that hates because I said he was entitled. And that started because people were saying Shed  Sanders was entitled, while ignoring Bryce.

You and I argued that and it did not descend into personal insults but another person in there had to go there. And the thing about it was, the thread wanted to get Sanders in here to compete and I said I would pass. It is just that he was a 5th round pick and isn’t being handed anything that got me defending him 

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On 12/19/2025 at 6:09 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

Sounds like there may have been a Time Life series or two in your household at some point.

Dude, I love those Time Life series. Honestly, I've got five different series... dating back to the early '70s. WWII, Civil War, The Old West, The Sciences and the Cooking ones (which is a masterpiece of culinary literature).

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Good grief, people, what are y'all going on about? 

I don't care about how you can it up---inconsistent flashes of oases of survivability and hopefulness within a desert of death by a thousand cuts and constant agitated emotions, Bryce just isn't what we want in the final estimation. And, If anyone does want him, hats off to you (because it fell off from a confluence of me shaking my head and laughing hysterically).

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On 12/19/2025 at 4:09 AM, *FreeFua* said:

I’ve seen a few people mention the fact NO only had 10 points going into the 4th as some sort of victory by the defense. 

I assume you’re box score watching?

The Saints had 4 real possessions going into the 4th quarter. One was the 11:22 minute TD drive and the other a 7:58 FG drive

According to nextgenstats there are normally 24 possessions in a game. There were 16 in Sundays game and that’s including a one play kneel down “possession” at the end of the first half and the final 1 play “possession” at the end of the game 

For comparison, there were 11 possessions in last nights Seahawks Rams game in the 4th quarter alone 

A bit off here. I watch every game and any time they make it out to vaguely the west coast, I’m there in person. 

I guess you’re suggesting that the saints time of possession is indicative of the defensive lapse? Despite the points? 

Yes, the saints’ drives dominated the time of possession. But much of that was questionable penalties extending drives and just frankly lucky contested plays. Receivers just hanging on right at the sticks. Juggled screen passes that result in a first. There was also Rozeboom just mishandling a gift fumble.
 

Also, no argument, the 4th quarter drives were rough. But again, it goes back to what could have been done differently. We tried lining up Jaycee one on one and Olave burned him.

Contrast that with today’s game. The players have to execute the plan.

 

 

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      Reasonable. I mean I didn’t see a clear path to relief this season myself. As I have typed already, I think the QB FA class is more interesting next season and that draft is supposed to be stacked as well. There just weren’t many options this year.  When you have Tepper to contend with you have to tread lightly around this unless you are 100% certain and willIng to stake your job on it.   There were a couple of outings that helped Bryce a lot in terms of  thinking maybe he can do this, and if you are a supporter you are giving them a lot of weight. You are likely to think just get him some more help and he can do that every week. Which I think Tepper falls into that category.  And the playoffs, division champs, regardless of the way I see that, the supporters will also give that a lot of weight.    And the big one, the atmosphere In BOA for that WC game, Tepper had to be soiling himself over that. If you pulled Bryce out right now you had better be right and your new guy had better make the playoffs and look good doing it or you will be gone and your chance to build your old team back into respectability will be gone too.  So here we have Pickett on a one year deal, and Grier and King. I understand it.  
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