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Just now, kungfoodude said:

That's hilarious. I wonder if it was a "mutual parting of ways" given they had Arch Manning and they knew he wouldn't be able to beat out Ewers again.

That’s exactly what happened. He got completely exposed by Georgia and wasn’t that good before that. Remember they actually sat him for a series in that game. Sarkisian is such a damn fraud. 

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Just now, electro's horse said:

That’s exactly what happened. He got completely exposed by Georgia and wasn’t that good before that. Remember they actually sat him for a series in that game. Sarkisian is such a damn fraud. 

Manning improved a lot over the course of the season but he has probably dropped to a Day 3 NFL prospect, in truth.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Manning improved a lot over the course of the season but he has probably dropped to a Day 3 NFL prospect, in truth.

I mean qbs climb in every draft and the Browns are sitting there ready to blow another pick on a qb.

i know they just drafted two and still have Watson lurking around but Jimmy Haslam is a huge Tennessee booster and will do whatever Peyton tells him to. 

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

I mean qbs climb in every draft and the Browns are sitting there ready to blow another pick on a qb.

i know they just drafted two and still have Watson lurking around but Jimmy Haslam is a huge Tennessee booster and will do whatever Peyton tells him to. 

It depends on what the 2027 Draft looks like, I suppose. There are some potentially good younger QB's in the mix(kid from Washington comes to mind) so I think it will depend on what the 2026 Browns look like and what that 2027 Draft Class looks like.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That throwing motion is fuging hilarious. I called him Uncle Rico literally in his first start. He throws just like Uncle Rico. It's wild.

 

 

It's funny but Old Man Rivers was a sidearm thrower. It's an outlier but I don't think it will keep him out of the NFL.....IF he actually develops. The fact he is this far behind in his development while being given every advantage possible is maybe one of the biggest red flags I have ever seen for a prospect.

All I can say is that he better look like Mendoza in 2026.

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's funny but Old Man Rivers was a sidearm thrower. It's an outlier but I don't think it will keep him out of the NFL.....IF he actually develops. The fact he is this far behind in his development while being given every advantage possible is maybe one of the biggest red flags I have ever seen for a prospect.

All I can say is that he better look like Mendoza in 2026.

The NFL gets a hard on about pedigrees and pedigrees don't come any higher than a Manning at QB. If he looks significantly improved next year I'm sure they'll largely overlook this year vs. struggling to reconcile Bama Hurts and OU Hurts.

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