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Cam on ‘The Bank’

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By raleigh-panther,
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Khyber53 Grand Master

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2 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

His injuries occurred from the pocket.

Sadly,  when it comes to football, I think all hits are cumulative. And Cam took his share and certainly gave  more hits than any other QB I've ever seen.  The man left it all on the field, for sure.

It's a rough, rough way to make a living.

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1 hour ago, Mike2.0 said:

Shoulder, yes, but my point was that his superman style was going to catch up on him. Players don’t take that kind of hammering and play twenty years. A true pocket passer that can protect themselves has a far greater chance of having a lengthy playing career.

I know you're referring to Cam's running but having watched both players' long careers I can tell you right now Brett Favre took wayyyyyy more of a beating over the years than Cam did in his career. And yet he has probably the most ridiculous record in all of sports with his ironman streak. Injuries come down to luck and genetics more than playstyle. Allen plays the same way Cam did and has been one of the healthiest QBs in the league with no signs of that changing any time soon.

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1 hour ago, t96 said:

I know you're referring to Cam's running but having watched both players' long careers I can tell you right now Brett Favre took wayyyyyy more of a beating over the years than Cam did in his career. And yet he has probably the most ridiculous record in all of sports with his ironman streak. Injuries come down to luck and genetics more than playstyle. Allen plays the same way Cam did and has been one of the healthiest QBs in the league with no signs of that changing any time soon.

Favre got himself a nice Vicodin habit out of the Ironman attitude.
And he isn’t alone. Occupational hazard.  

I wonder what he was getting injected with when he had an ankle or knee or maybe a couple of fingers were real messed up. 

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