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Even though it's not a reach at #19 and there are positions available we need, I'm not necessarily swooning over the guys in this range.  It's sort of a 'void' area to me.  That being said, I would entertain a trade back.  Why? A few guys I think could help the team are a little further back in round 1 and we shouldn't reach. I really like a lot of players with second and early third round grades right now.  We only have one pick each in both rounds.  Picking up an extra pick on day 2 would be huge and still get a guy we need without reaching in round 1.

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MY HOPES.

First, the ickey situation is super unfortunate.  I think try to get a reasonable extension that allows to cut if his recovery is bad.  Option being if Lewis or Hunt get hurt he can kick inside, however I think its reasonable to think with his lack of progress, and prognosis of that injury he may never be a LT again at the NFL level.  Nymen should return hopefully as well as brady and let the best LT win.

We HAVE to cut X.  Its not even an option at this point.  Guy is simply put not an NFL receiver.  He can return kicks and stuff, but as one of our top 3 options, its no longer an option.  Best I'd say is see if someone is willing to give peanuts for him, if not, just cut bait or keep him at best on the bottom of the roster.

Kinda addressed in first, but Icky could be a long term option at guard...maybe depending on how his recovery from injury is.  Try to resign mays, if not I'd be ok with taking a Center in the draft and sigh...letting corbett maybe play the position.

LB, Get Rozeboom back, maybe not as a starter but definitely worth bringing him back and also Im a guy of the mind when guys perform well, rewards like attempting to retain go a ways amongst players to grow a positive reputation.  I always say, you cant have all pros everywhere, but continue developing Wallace, draft a LB on day one or 2, and try to find high upside players who might be better utilized in our system vs where they came from.

Chuba, definitely rely on him coming back, if not see if Etienne or Brooks take off.  RB is not a position to pay a lot for in the NFL these days, utilize the depth we already have and grow from that.  If you do anything in FA, its a similar Rico signing, someone falls into your lap and you can pay a prove it contract.

LASTLY, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the big thing I want to see happen is a run at a big time Pass rusher this offseason.  I think we'll treat this as win now mode although I think our "win now" still is maybe at best an NFC Divisional...MAAAYBE championship game run.  That said, the rumors of Trey Hendrickson do make sense, although personally I'm skeptical on how well he'll perform in a 3-4 as opposed to 4-3.  Also wouldnt be surprised if there were significant trade proposal for Maxx Crosby.  We will see though, a move like that would mark a huge sign that we are attempting to win right now.

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35 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Chef's kiss!

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Hey Dan, Give me a call.  I can walk you through this, lol!

I don't know most of those players but positionally I like that. I want to take a QB somewhere rounds 3-5 and would consider one in the second though.

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not sure how high we'll be on Lomu to be honest. We seem to prefer big maulers on the OL and Lomu is really light for a modern NFL OT. He's listed barely over 300.

He's got the frame to add weight.  It's easier to get a guy to add 10-15 pounds than tell a big guy to go on a diet.

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16 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

He's got the frame to add weight.  It's easier to get a guy to add 10-15 pounds than tell a big guy to go on a diet.

He's gonna be an older rookie at 24 years old. Some guys just don't carry weight well. I don't think you draft this guy expecting him to play much heavier.

Just comes down to whether you want lighter more agile OL or maulers. We seem to prefer the mauling type. 

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33 minutes ago, Sup said:

I don't know most of those players but positionally I like that. I want to take a QB somewhere rounds 3-5 and would consider one in the second though.

Young LT with lots of upside, wirey Edge guy, proven center, feisty corner, stout IDL, ball-hawking safety, sideline-to-sideline LB, productive all-purpose RB, off-ball tackling machine LB and slot WR that's a mismatch threat.

I'd be elated with that draft!

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39 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not sure how high we'll be on Lomu to be honest. We seem to prefer big maulers on the OL and Lomu is really light for a modern NFL OT. He's listed barely over 300.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Caleb-Lomu-OL-Utah

Lomu is about 305 taken the average weights I've seen him listed at. He probably needs to get to about 315. I'm not worried about his age; more mature in my book. This whole thing about being a year or two older than the average draftee matters none to me.  His pass blocking is top notch.  That's what you want from your blindside tackle. Run blocking can be refined more easily than vise-versa. Pass protection has a lot more nuances and technique to get correct to be efficient over run blocking.

My thought is if Ickey can make it back, great, but I'm not betting the future of the team on it since LT is arguably the second most important position on a football team besides QB. Also, I want to draft our LT this year to get a season under his belt so he can protect our rookie QB in '27.

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3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Caleb-Lomu-OL-Utah

Lomu is about 305 taken the average weights I've seen him listed at. He probably needs to get to about 315. I'm not worried about his age; more mature in my book. This whole thing about being a year or two older than the average draftee matters none to me.  His pass blocking is top notch.  That's what you want from your blindside tackle. Run blocking can be refined more easily than vise-versa. Pass protection has a lot more nuances and technique to get correct to be efficient over run blocking.

My thought is if Ickey can make it back, great, but I'm not betting the future of the team on it since LT is arguably the second most important position on a football team besides QB. Also, I want to draft our LT this year to get a season under his belt so he can protect our rookie QB in '27.

It generally means less upside. You're a literal man playing amongst boys in college. Sometimes you find a Joe Burrow but you usually find a Xavier Legette.

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A lot of mocks are zeroing in on us taking Woods or McDonald.  I don't love either of those guys. At this point, Styles does not make past #15 with Dallas the most common landing spot. The Saints are the favorites to land Bailey.  The top tier OTs are always gone, with Lomu creeping up on some mocks.  He may make it to a top 20 prospect.  I am really leaning to a move back.  

If mocks are stating that Woods and McDonald are the best fit on the board for us at #19, we could move back several spots and land someone just as good, if not possibly one of those guys anyways.

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9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

A lot of mocks are zeroing in on us taking Woods or McDonald.  I don't love either of those guys. At this point, Styles does not make past #15 with Dallas the most common landing spot. The Saints are the favorites to land Bailey.  The top tier OTs are always gone, with Lomu creeping up on some mocks.  He may make it to a top 20 prospect.  I am really leaning to a move back.  

If mocks are stating that Woods and McDonald are the best fit on the board for us at #19, we could move back several spots and land someone just as good, if not possibly one of those guys anyways.

It’s because they aren’t sexy picks and they make those picks for bad teams, like us, because they don’t know our roster composition. You don’t continue to pour your high end resources on a 3 man front. 

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