drafting cam at 1 would put us in the exact same position next year

[Fiz]

tl;dr - cam would be a developmental project who almost certainly wouldn't contribute at a high, consistent level this year, the offense would continue to struggle, and it's highly likely that come draft time in 2012 we'd be in position to grab Andrew Luck.

disclaimer: this isn't about race or any bullpoo like that. kaseklosed of all people has met me and will vouch that i am not in fact a grand master cyclops of the kkk

Obviously the panthers are deficient at the quarterback position. there are lots of questions about the developmental path of clausen and what newton can do, but physically newton is a far superior specimen (much higher ceiling) and getting him would put us on a better path.

however, newton has many technique failings that will need to be addressed. he's not like josh freeman, who played in a weird offense (much like cam) because josh was technically sound. from the waist up, newton is john elway, but from the waist down he's bambi on ice, and these issues will take time to fix. it's possible he's bret favre who had terrible footwork his whole career but you really shouldn't compare people to hall of famers to make your argument. he's not matt ryan, who came into the league ready to contribute at an above average level and then never get better.

i've also read that newton's strong arm favors what chud wants to do on offense, with stretching the field like he did with braylon edwards and trent. this might be true but, barring breakout years from david gettis, a miracle draft pick like mike williams, or steve smith going against MAJOR historical trends, the players aren't on the offense to take advantage of the arm of a player who likely won't be able to play at a high level his rookie year for the previously stated reasons.

now, newton could prove everyone wrong and contribute at a very high level and develop into that terrible catch phrase people around here love to toss around (franchise qb). he could overcome major historical trends, the panthers could compete, the panthers could draft out of the top five and make this argument moot. he could overcome his own technique deficiencies. he could make us spend next offseason arguing about just how many super bowl MVPs he's going to win (the king taharqua option)

that's a poo ton of ifs.

in my informed opinion, if the trade for him falls through, the panthers would be much better suited just taking either dareus, peterson/akamura (panthers are at nebraska's pro day) or Green.

No, this will not win us a lot of praise from the scouts. yes, someone will take newton and we'll have to listen to how bad of a mistake we made (bush v williams), and no we won't compete in 2011, but we'll be setting ourselves up to maybe draft the best QB prospect since the last big name that came out of stanford.

now let's argue this until i get banned for horse poo reasons again

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I disagree

Reason: Way to long to read and to many gramatical errors in the first paragraph.

[Jackofalltrades]

Agreed...with the title.

Didn't/couldn't read the rest.

[Mr. Scot]

I did, and pretty much agreed with it.

[teeray]

JOAT covered this in the JR thread

I swear it's like short term sacrifice for long term gain is a totally foreign concept around here.

He is soooo right

[Fiz]

I disagree

Reason: Way to long to read and to many gramatical errors in the first paragraph.

yeah my tenses are a disaster and it's a major failing i have that requires rigorous self editing on my part that im just not in the mood for

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

With your reasoning, that would make everyone happy we get the #1 pick again and select Andrew Luck then everyone is happy. But if we select Peterson, Dareaus etc. we don't get the #1 pick.

[Jangler]

Has a team ever drafted 4.5 QBs in 3 years? We should so do that.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

yeah my tenses are a disaster and it's a major failing i have that requires rigorous self editing on my part that im just not in the mood for

It's cool I got called a racist once.

[Fiz]

With your reasoning, that would make everyone happy we get the #1 pick again and select Andrew Luck then everyone is happy. But if we select Peterson, Dareaus etc. we don't get the #1 pick.

that's a bold statement and assumes the defense was the reason we're in the position we're in now.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Exact opposite, Offense is why were in this position which is why I am advocating for a QB.

[jtnc]

Clausen is horrible, his teammates are dissatisfied with his play. Most of his teammates could care a less about him. Just look at his twitter feed.

[teeray]

The OP felt like a really long run on sentence.

I also just hate the "let's not draft Cam bc that will give us a good shot at the #1 pick again next year, therefore Luck." Argument.

What if we do that. Get #1 again and Luck says, Fug it I'm staying again. Should we tank another season??

[Mr. Scot]

With your reasoning, that would make everyone happy we get the #1 pick again and select Andrew Luck then everyone is happy. But if we select Peterson, Dareaus etc. we don't get the #1 pick.

The season isn't going to rise or fall based on who we take at #1 alone. There are a lot of other factors.

We could hit a total home run on the top pick and still have season in the toilet.

With that said, it's extremely important for that choice to be the right one.