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League won’t negotiate with class counsel

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Nfl officials say they will not negotiate with class counsel, nflpa letter sent by david feher

dkaplanSBJ daniel kaplan

Nfl officials says the nflpa letter sent today was asking for settlement discussions, not to return to negotiating table
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what the fug does this even mean?

After a week of indicating a desire to return to the bargaining table, the NFL now has a clear chance to negotiate a new deal.

And the NFL is refusing to proceed.

Seriously.

Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal reports that the league will not negotiate with the lawyers representing the class action that has been filed against the NFL following decertification of the union.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/21/league-wont-negotiate-with-class-counsel/

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Why should they? Settlement of a lawsuit imlpies some level of admittance to wrong doing. The players over-reached by walking away from talks, decertifying and starting their lawsuit. And with Doty not on the case, the owners clearly have the upperhand.

As far as tactics go, the NFLPA* is trying to use this as show of unwillingness to negotiate. When in fact, since there is no union, many of the collective bargaining laws no longer apply. The owners know this.

Smith is failing and is reaching for anything now.

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what the fug does this even mean?

it means the NFLPA sent a note that said:

"our penis is this big:

8==================D "

and then the owners responded with this note:

"oh yeah? well ours is THIS BIG:

8=====================================D~~~~

and we ***** on you so nah nah nah nah"

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Why should they? Settlement of a lawsuit imlpies some level of admittance to wrong doing. The players over-reached by walking away from talks, decertifying and starting their lawsuit. And with Doty not on the case, the owners clearly have the upperhand.

As far as tactics go, the NFLPA* is trying to use this as show of unwillingness to negotiate. When in fact, since there is no union, many of the collective bargaining laws no longer apply. The owners know this.

Smith is failing and is reaching for anything now.

Doty not being the judge means little. sure Doty went with the players on several ocasions, but the reality was that he was a pretty fair judge, and the owners simply were wrong. the law is the law, and it doesn't give the owners much leverage besides delay tactics. If the players can hold out they will probably eventually "win" what happens then, if we ever get there, will be interesting to see

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Doty not being the judge means little. sure Doty went with the players on several ocasions, but the reality was that he was a pretty fair judge, and the owners simply were wrong. the law is the law, and it doesn't give the owners much leverage besides delay tactics. If the players can hold out they will probably eventually "win" what happens then, if we ever get there, will be interesting to see

Yeah, he's so fair the NFL has accused him of bias.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=3288568

What a prophetic article.

The owners are particularly angry about comments Doty made in a recent Sports Business Journal interview, in which Doty said, "[NFL owners] pretend they're getting beaten around. Well, they did, initially, but they had a position that was not legally sound … I think if you ask Paul Tagliabue [former commissioner], he would say, 'the whole thing has come out our way.' Because even though the owners complain about it, all they've done is make tons of money."

These statements, the owners say, demonstrate Doty's bias against them and in favor of the players. Upshaw and the players reply that Doty was talking only about the earlier litigation that led to the 1993 agreement and that there is no indication of bias in any of the statements.

The statements to the media and the Minnesota Nice sessions "demonstrate bias," say the owners, and they want Doty to walk away from any further role in the disputes.

So yes... you can say the "Law is the law", but ALL laws are subject to interpretation in a court setting. So far Doty's intpretations have been anti-NFL.

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Players did the same thing saying they don't want to talk to Goodell or Pash but the owners themselves. The owners are saying they don't want to talk to the lawyers and settle a class action suit but want to talk to the players and negotiate the CBA. Looks more like a non-story to me.

But on that note, screw them both. Both need a paycut.

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