If we draft Marcell Dareus

[Marguide]

Would anyone be opposed to trading our 2012 first so we can have Dareus and PP?

No. Hell no. Don't even think about it.

Are you Marty Hurney?

[Mother Grabber]

Two top 5 picks. Who wouldn't do that?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

If we pass on taking a quarterback AND trade our 2012 1st away someone needs to put out a hit on Hurney...

There's really no way you trade into the top 10 with future picks though.

[Verge]

Or...we could just draft a qb and move forward with the franchise.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Or...we could just draft a qb and move forward with the franchise.

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[CAVSS]

1st round QB's have about a 50% bust rate. A little better actually IIRC

2nd round QB's are ridiculously high. Something like 85% I think.

(disclaimer; stats are completely off the top of my head)

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Historical average doesn't mean a whole lot when you're including really good QB drafts and we're faced with one of the worst QB classes of all time. Quick, what's the bust rate for the QBs taken in the 2007 draft...

[TheRealDeal]

Since Moore wasn't drafted it's 100%

[CAVSS]

Historical average doesn't mean a whole lot when you're including really good QB drafts and we're faced with one of the worst QB classes of all time. Quick, what's the bust rate for the QBs taken in the 2007 draft...

LOL Seriously? How much do you want to bet that I can look through the history of the draft and do the same thing at almost every other position in football.

c/n dont draft anyone because guys at every position bust. AHHHHHH!

Calling this one of the worst QB drafts of all time is a very opinion based prediction that many would disagree with. Though I do agree that it is weak overall; we simply do not know. A lot of people were saying that last year and it doesn't look to be turning out that way.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Just saying historical averages aren't all that useful. You're not drafting the average of every single player taken at that position, just one guy. Grade the players available, how different players taken in previous years turned out doesn't really matter.

[CAVSS]

Just saying historical averages aren't all that useful. You're not drafting the average of every single player taken at that position, just one guy. Grade the players available, how different players taken in previous years turned out doesn't really matter.

Ah I gotcha. In that case I agree 100%. Bottom line I hope that we pick up a QB but I'm trusting Riv to make the right decision. If he goes D then I will accept that there wasn't a QB worth gambling on.

But if we go D, that guy better go all Ben Rapelesburger on Luck when we meet him on the field. :D

[Primetime 89]

best CB in the history of the game was only drafted #5 overall.. and if you're tellin me this dude is better than Neon.... you guys need to stop smoking whatever you're smoking.

oh and DTs are at least involved in every play that they're on the field for..

[cbarrier90]

best CB in the history of the game was only drafted #5 overall.. and if you're tellin me this dude is better than Neon.... you guys need to stop smoking whatever you're smoking.

oh and DTs are at least involved in every play that they're on the field for..

Problem is, there's not anyone the caliber of a Troy Aikman, Barry Sanders, or a Derrick Thomas ahead of Peterson in terms of sheer talent in this draft. Peterson is clearly the best player this year and IMO the only sure pick.

Tony Mandarich went #2 overall to the Packers that year, so it's not like passing up the CB for a "need" is foolproof either.