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My case for Newton.

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As many of you know, I have not exactly been totally supportive of Newton, however after watching games last night (all of em) and watching Newton very closely, he certainly brings excitement.

My second team is the Denver Broncos (I have lived in Colorado my whole life and watch every game), they drafted The Golden Calf of Bristol, when he came out in the game against the Raiders while watching Orton and his mediocrity for the whole season, The Golden Calf of Bristol just slammed everyone in Colorado with excitement that game. The busting off of huge runs, the huge arm that made miracle passes, his will to move the ball downfield, it was amazing and something Denver hadn't had since Elway.

I believe Newton can bring that will to win, and that excitement that no one in Carolina has had the opportunity to experience yet, it's kind of like "This is our franchise qb...this guy is gonna win us some rings" and you can look forward to football even more every Sunday.

The question is with him is does he have that will, and is his football iq smart enough to be able to execute this stuff.

One thing is for certain, we might not get another chance at a player like this again.

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Serious question....Whats the big difference between the spread and the wildcat? Newton seems perfect for a wildcat offense to get his feet wet his rookie year. But Clausen will lose out in camp to Newton.

Wildcat is a crap attempt to throw defenses off and they're starting to shut ot down.

Newton seems perfect for Chan Gailey's offense in Buffalo.

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from a dude named jeffersonlives who is really really fuging smart about the nfl

On the other hand, Newton is a mechanical nightmare at quarterback. I wasn't joking before, I honestly think his best NFL position is tight end unless a team wants to convert fully to a college style spread option. As a pro passer, Newton's a developmental player with low to medium upside. So in that regard there really has never been anyone like him, because it's only with the advent of spread options in the past few years that pure option quarterbacks have been able to compile the type of passing statistics that fools people to think they can play quarterback in the pros. Vick in Gus Malzahn's offense would have been a legendary college player. Whereas ten years ago, Newton is a late round prospect at another position or playing in the CFL.

eta: To clear this up a little - I think Newton can be successful in the NFL but it's going to take an unprecedented leap of faith in converting to an offense that emphasizes what he can do. And there's a lot of stuff he can't do, enough that sticking him in anything remotely resembling a normal NFL offense is going to lead to great hilarity.

re: Newton's mechanics

Newton throws the ball with his upper body only, even when in a set position. Mechanically, it's almost like he's throwing on the run on every throw. He doesn't step into throws and as a result of that he ends up off his back foot constantly even when there's no reason to be. He also doesn't really set his feet in the right direction much of the time.

We don't have much to go on to evaluate Newton as a pro prospect. Newton's Auburn tapes show a guy with good running ability and a good arm, but making simple throws out of an offense that is so far from a pro-style passing attack that he might as well have been playing Arena football. His junior college tapes aren't a lot more helpful. So in theory you've got a lot more emphasis on the postseason activities for him, except Newton looked completely horrible in the throwing segments at the combine. His pro day was better, but as has already been noted he was scripted to make very few NFL style throws and a lot of low difficulty throws and throws on the run. Perhaps he blew away Carolina in private workouts, or perhaps they're just distracted by the shiny object, or they decided to take a quarterback no matter what even though Luck passed, or they actually are going to be messing around with the option, or this is all a gigantic smokescreen. We'll find out soon enough!

Newton does have excellent arm strength and a good delivery from the waist up. If you're drafting him as a pro-style quarterback and not to start screwing around with option football, you're basically hoping he's good enough at everything else to overcome the should-be-crippling problems from the waist down, like Jay Cutler. I don't think Newton's even close to that good a thrower, nor do I think Jay Cutler plus some running ability in this draft would be the first overall pick over someone like Patrick Peterson, your mileage may vary.

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I totally agree. I have so many worries, which is why I would rather have a lot of players over him, however if, IF, he has the will to overcome those issues, he can.

If we pick Newton I am not going to go kill myself, but I do have my doubts.

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Too boom or bust for me. I like the potential but am not convinced. Just a gut feeling. I wish him the best wherever he goes.

I think everyone has that gut feeling, I do, Mayock does, and most analysts/fans do as well. It's just a matter if Hurney does or not.

Again, I don't think we are going to draft him, I am almost convinced we won't, but if we do...oh boy.

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Glad you finally watched him play his skill set and potential is to much to pass on.

I've watched him play plenty (saw almost every Auburn game last season) and skill set and potential doesn't mean poo if you don't have it upstairs and can't read NFL defenses....

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