We do not need to be mortgaging our future again...

[Darth Biscuit]

There's a difference between taking a risk and being a dumbass by giving away the future. Hurney straddled that line too much. We were in a win-now mentality. I think that's what led to the trading away of future picks.

This is why you don't let your coaches contract run out... too much "win now" mentality... that or "idgaf" mentality... I think Hurney had the former and Fox had the latter.

[carolinarolls]

I agree with the OP that the premise and precedent of this sort of draft behavior make this argument almost indefensible, BUT, if the thinning of the roster of vets and the statement by JR that they were preparing for this Assumed this type of situation) we may be in a position to address FA after the draft based on cap room (LOL) and in essence have next years draft over the next few weeks rather than next year.

Risky? hell yes. But I think it may give us the jump we need now if it can be orchestrated correctly.

Move up and get a great DT..I say Marvin Austin

****** Nhamdi at quite the price maybe even throwing in late round picks from next year

Hopefully be one of the teams like Atlanta or NE that the pundits were claiming did not have HUGE needs to fill this draft.

just sayin' this is a weird year and we have lots of ground to make up.

[The Saltman]

I'm not so sure our future 2012 first rounder is worth it to get Marvin Austin.

I however would love to have Nhamdi.

[Darth Biscuit]

I'm not so sure our future 2012 first rounder is worth it to get Marvin Austin.

I however would love to have Namdi.

This was my point in another thread... do not trade the #1 for any future year for a pick... if you're gonna trade it, trade it for a vet player in their prime, someone you KNOW is gonna come in and play.

[The Saltman]

I mean if Austin was worth a 1st rounder he would be off the board anyways and this debate would be null.

[Jangler]

This is fuging depressing. so many guys in the 2nd we need. fug fug fug fug flying fuging fuger

yup, who could we be getting with the next pick and more of an impact on the team?

[OneBadassCat]

We made a huge mistake last year by trading away our second round pick. The only logical way we trade into the 2nd round again is to trade away our first next year.

If we do that the whole Front Office of the Panthers needs to go ahead and quit.

Imagine us with a top 5 pick next year in the hands of another Team.

Say No to moving up into the second round.

We just mortgaged the future last night. What difference does it make now?

[jasonluckydog]

If the Mayan calendar is correct then we all have no future

[The Saltman]

We just mortgaged the future last night. What difference does it make now?

you're right. Lets just trade away all future draft picks.

[carolinarolls]

I agree. If you do not believe MA was a first rounder before he got tangled up with agents and suspended then I see the point.

However, I believe if he played this past year both he and Quinn may have gone top ten so I see it just as we played the Otah deal and say we are getting next year's first rounder a year early.

It's just a thought. Not sure I would have the balls to do it even if I was on the button but there is a way to manipulate all this mayhem to advantage if one gives it enough thought.

[The Saltman]

Im not a scout though and have never watched a UNC game before so you guys who have might have a better eye on the guy. Just my opinion.

[Mr. Scot]

Coulda shoulda but I'm more pissed at the possibility of us being able to trade down and acquiring more picks if we had pick #33 and still get our guy.

UGHHH

Listening to ESPN right now talking about "what the Patriots plan to do with the first pick of the second round".

:banghead:

[Snake]

We just mortgaged the future last night. What difference does it make now?

[carolinarolls]

Im not a scout though and have never watched a UNC game before so you guys who have might have a better eye on the guy. Just my opinion.

beast, heart, motor

and I believe he is better now than he ever was at UNC. Yes I am a homer. I admit it. But the guy was coup recruit for Davis to start with and has taken on double teams consistently since he started as a true frosh. Strong as an ox and very fast.

He fugged up, embarrassed the program and paid a huge price but I am certain he will make serious waves wherever he gets picked tonight.