The reality of Clausen's good night

[brainless wuss]

I saw that David Carr is back with the Giants

[Raleighcat83]

TRD, you wanna go on record and predict Cam's stats for this year? Then if you're right and he sucks and we've all been needlessly hyping him beyond his actual ability, you can bump this thread after the season and look like a genius.

[TheRealDeal]

If everyone else goes on record as well, I'd be more than happy to whip something up, although I don't think I'd be close either way.

[Peppers90 NC]

shouldnt "good night" have been in quotations?

[Marguide]

Just for fun I have been looking at other rookie performances in their first preseason game.

Mark Sanchez's first pass ever was a 48 yd bomb for a TD. His target? None other than our own David Clowney.

There is your fun fact for today.

[ncbobcat]

Yeah, I keep reading "Clausen looks good!". People must have been watching a Notre Dame highlight video.

Did he look better than last year? Marginally.

Considering he's the worst QB we've ever had, a marginal improvement isn't a good improvement.

Jeff Lewis, anyone? He's a guy we had before Newton.

[Raleighcat83]

If everyone else goes on record as well, I'd be more than happy to whip something up, although I don't think I'd be close either way.

See, the impression that people here have of you is that you bash Cam no matter what he does, just like you accuse others of praising him no matter what he does. I'm just curious to know what you would consider a "good performance" from him to be? If he completes 60% with 1td 0int against Miami will you come on here and say, "oh, maybe I was wrong about this guy"? What if he completes 75% with 2td and 0int? Or does he have to do it for multiple games? A whole season? I saw an offense that looked a lot more capable of making big plays Saturday night than it did at any point last season, that's the basis for my being excited about his performance.

[Peppers90 NC]

I saw an offense that looked a lot more capable of making big plays Saturday night than it did at any point last season, that's the basis for my being excited about his performance.

this is correct. i dont give a damn about his overall stats, only how well the team moves the ball. he has a major influence on every aspect of the offense, even a direct handoff.

[Miaoww]

Yeah, I keep reading "Clausen looks good!". People must have been watching a Notre Dame highlight video.

Did he look better than last year? Marginally.

Considering he's the worst QB we've ever had, a marginal improvement isn't a good improvement.

Jesus Christ, when did you start watching the Panthers?

Randy fuging Fasani, and it isn't even bloody close!

[TheRealDeal]

See, the impression that people here have of you is that you bash Cam no matter what he does, just like you accuse others of praising him no matter what he does. I'm just curious to know what you would consider a "good performance" from him to be? If he completes 60% with 1td 0int against Miami will you come on here and say, "oh, maybe I was wrong about this guy"? What if he completes 75% with 2td and 0int? Or does he have to do it for multiple games? A whole season? I saw an offense that looked a lot more capable of making big plays Saturday night than it did at any point last season, that's the basis for my being excited about his performance.

Stats don't matter to me, not once did I quote his completion percentage as evidence of his lack of accuracy. I talked about what I saw on each play adn my reasoning for saying it was a good/bad throw.

I couldn't have given Cam higher praise for that ball that Armanti dropped. It was perfect. Perfect drop, perfect plant, perfect throw. fuging beautiful.

Problem is, it was the only pass that was close to that. Back foot here, back foot there, bouncer here, sail one there.

I'd be more than willing to give him credit when he deserves it, but I won't let myself be blinded by "hope" and use that to draw my conclusions.

[bleys]

I'll post a prediction.. he throws 2800 yards and 14 TDs..

[Jpjr]

Just for fun I have been looking at other rookie performances in their first preseason game.

Mark Sanchez's first pass ever was a 48 yd bomb for a TD. His target? None other than our own David Clowney.

There is your fun fact for today.

Here is your second fun fact of the day.

Mark Sanchez's first pass of his second season was a pick six.

[blackcatgrowl]

Jesus Christ, when did you start watching the Panthers?

Randy fuging Fasani, and it isn't even bloody close!

Fasani threw the ball 44 times as a Panther in 4 games with one start.

Ok... fine... minimum 4 starts... Clausen is the worst we've ever had.

[Razeyfingers]

I thought they both made good enough reads and showed promise that they are improving. Im fine with that.