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Newton starter vs Bengals, Week 1 starter TBD


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Simple. You don't name a "starter" before you have to, so that you don't have to "bench" someone when you absolutely have to.

With that said, the writing is on the wall people. Its Cam time. Lets see how he handles the load, and so long as he doesn't go out there missing we can expect the keys to handed over. For those saying its obvious what we want to do, we drafted the guy number 1 overall.

In other news, no mention of Gamble being out.

Actually it's simpler than that. They've wanted to name Cam the starter since they drafted him and he's played subpar at best. They had to hold thier nose and give him the nod today because they are out of time for him to prove himself.

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Actually it's simpler than that. They've wanted to name Cam the starter since they drafted him and he's played subpar at best. They had to hold thier nose and give him the nod today because they are out of time for him to prove himself.

Played subpar? I think he's been about as expected. They knew when they drafted him that they would have to coach him up, especially considering his no huddle, shotgun, no play calling background. Compound that with the fact that we couldn't work with him in the off-season and it makes sense that we would wait to see what he can take on before we name him the starter.

I think the fact that we are giving him another start is a sign that the coaches are pleased with how he has handled delivering the play call in the huddle, making the right calls under center at the line of scrimmage, and handling the snap.. you know, all that stuff the media claimed he wouldn't be able to do before the draft.

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Actually it's simpler than that. They've wanted to name Cam the starter since they drafted him and he's played subpar at best. They had to hold thier nose and give him the nod today because they are out of time for him to prove himself.

He's not out of time to prove himself, he's a rookie going into his third preseason game.

You are partially right, they did want him to prove himself. But he hasn't.

They're giving him another test - see how he handles an entire week of 1s and game planning, then 3 quarters of play. How does he handle a gameplan that is tailored to him and to his opponent?

Even if he fails, he's still not "out of time to prove himself." The way Clausen has been playing, Newton WILL show up again this season no matter what happens against Cincy.

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I look at it this way. U moving up in jobs and told that you not only have to re-adjust ur way of thinking and mechanically doing things, but ur doing it with no OTA and full training and ur told u need to be good enough to pass by a certain time. If after three weeks ur pretty much keeping up with the person who is the starter, what do u think is going to happen?

Cam's issue isn't mechanics brought on by bad habits learnt in collegeas some of you are trying to insinuate. It's learning and adjusting to a whole new system slightly different from what he is accustom too. Remember everyone was on the Jimmy bandwagon because he was familiar with the pro style offense used in the NFL. Thing is, he had already adjusted to habits. His saving grace is that he was/is a pretty accurate thrower but so is Mallett. Sadly, with Mallett, that is really pretty much his strong point.

The beauty about Cam, which seems to be going over the many paraniod heads is, Cam is raw but going to different colleges and winning championships under their system has shown that he is moldable. Vs. someone who stayed in the same school as a QB until entering the draft and forming bad habits no one felt the need to fix cause it didn't

affect the outcome of the game..

Case in point, The Golden Calf of Bristol. His throwing mechanics was something that he was able to get away with in college. Sadly, he isn't able to easily get rid of the mechanical issue. Cam doesn't bring that problem. His problem is simply learning a different style of play.

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He's not out of time to prove himself, he's a rookie going into his third preseason game.

You are partially right, they did want him to prove himself. But he hasn't.They're giving him another test - see how he handles an entire week of 1s and game planning, then 3 quarters of play. How does he handle a gameplan that is tailored to him and to his opponent?

Even if he fails, he's still not "out of time to prove himself." The way Clausen has been playing, Newton WILL show up again this season no matter what happens against Cincy.

What is the benchmark to prove Cam hasn't proven himself in the eyes of the coaches?

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Actually it's simpler than that. They've wanted to name Cam the starter since they drafted him and he's played subpar at best. They had to hold thier nose and give him the nod today because they are out of time for him to prove himself.

Your comments above in bold tell me you either haven't watched much preseason football, or you just don't like Cam.

I am not saying Cam has significantly outplayed Jimmy, but what did you expect? Him coming out playing like Brady?

He has played pretty much like all rookie QB's play, and frankly about like many veterans play in preseason contests.

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