Cams distribution of the ball

[footballisasport]

this is what i was implying.

people can defend him all they want, the one area cam is supposed to be good at...he sucks at.

So we should all over-react and scrutinize everytime he doesn't do what we feel he should do? Okay

Like we know what the coaches are telling him to do...WTF...

[TheRealDeal]

So you aren't family but are you a close friend? Lover? Neighbor?

[lightsout]

So over 60 snaps under a combination of first and 2nd team units Cam has done the following.

21/52 passing for 275 yards. He's also rush for an additional 67 over 8 carries.

If you take his passes to w.r's out of the equation then his stats are as follows.

17/25 for 251 yards 14.7 ypc

8.37 ypc on 8 carries.

1 Rushing TD, no passing TD or Int

I wonder if someone has recorded a breakdown of how many of his passes would have been completed had he made the right read and accurate pass assuming the reciever could hold on to the catch.

My point exactly. Hell, let's just find a way to compute what his numbers would be had the receiver NOT dropped the pass. There are at least 7 or 8 that I can remember off the top of my head over these past 3 games. That at least makes the numbers look more typical of a rookie.

[TheRealDeal]

We should also calculate what it would be had he made all the easy throws he missed.

Also throw in the ones where the defense played really good defense but it was a good throw.

Finally, add in the ones where it wasn't his fault because there were defenders rushing him but if they weren't rushing he would have been able to complete the pass.

[lightsout]

We should also calculate what it would be had he made all the easy throws he missed.

Also throw in the ones where the defense played really good defense but it was a good throw.

Finally, add in the ones where it wasn't his fault because there were defenders rushing him but if they weren't rushing he would have been able to complete the pass.

Somebody is trying to be a dick. Working. Yes, god forbid somebody try to defend Cam instead of nit-picking his preseason performances. I feel like, even if Cam led us to 12-4 and a playoff appearance this year, you would STILL bitch about a bad throw or two, or some meaningless bullshit.

I don't care how we win, I just care that we do. Period. If that means Cam throwing 40% and running for 100+ yards a game, then so fuging be it.

[TheRealDeal]

We got smashed by the Bengals.

You should start caring that he throws for 30%

[lightsout]

We got smashed by the Bengals.

You should start caring that he throws for 30%

Yeah, you're right. I mean, his throwing 30% is THE reason we lost. It wasn't the fact that we couldn't run the ball. It wasn't that Gamble got his ass burnt all game. It had nothing to do with shitty OL play or the fact that Cedric fuging Benson looked like a HoFer against our defense. It is ALL Cam and his throwing. Even if he hasn't turned the ball over in 3 games, playing more time than any other QB on our team.

[panther4life]

We got smashed by the Bengals.

You should start caring that he throws for 30%

I have a hyptothetical question for you.

If given the choice which would you take?

A.You can have any qb in the league but your starting o-line would be the same line we have had all preseson(no otah and no Schwartz). Also you have to keep the same recievers and continue the pass/run ratio we have been running with Newton so far in preseason for the whole regular season.

B.Get a healthy Otah and Schwartz back. Run a more balanced attack in the rushing game and get any reciever in the league you want. Of course Newton remains the starting QB in this situation.

[Mr ocho nueve]

Yeah, you're right. I mean, his throwing 30% is THE reason we lost. It wasn't the fact that we couldn't run the ball. It wasn't that Gamble got his ass burnt all game. It had nothing to do with pooty OL play or the fact that Cedric fuging Benson looked like a HoFer against our defense. It is ALL Cam and his throwing. Even if he hasn't turned the ball over in 3 games, playing more time than any other QB on our team.

Well, it all starts with the QB. That's why we drafted one.

[mav1234]

I have a hyptothetical question for you.

If given the choice which would you take?

A.You can have any qb in the league but your starting o-line would be the same line we have had all preseson(no otah and no Schwartz). Also you have to keep the same recievers and continue the pass/run ratio we have been running with Newton so far in preseason for the whole regular season.

B.Get a healthy Otah and Schwartz back. Run a more balanced attack in the rushing game and get any reciever in the league you want. Of course Newton remains the starting QB in this situation.

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if the QB means so little, why exactly did we draft one #1 overall?

I know it's hard, but it's okay to admit Cam isn't playing well. He's a rookie. Maybe him not playing well is expected... but maybe it also means we should start someone else.

The entire team was responsible for that terrible performance, and since he is on the team, that includes Cam.

[CatMan72]

Folks are so quick to blame Cam, maybe our receivers suck and can't get open?

[Cat'sGrowl]

Our WRs have no time to get open..

[mav1234]

maybe everyone on the entire offense sucks but d-will, olsen and cam newton :willy_nilly:

wasn't the reason we sucked last year with clausen that it started and ended with qb play?

[lightsout]

maybe everyone on the entire offense sucks but d-will, olsen and cam newton :willy_nilly:

wasn't the reason we sucked last year with clausen that it started and ended with qb play?

I never bought into that. We sucked last year for a variety of reasons. Clausen's play was just at the forefront because of the AZ playoff game on, we had nothing but shitty QB play (with the exception of Matt Moore in 2009). I still say last year if we had an average QB, we win 6-7 games. So far, Cam looks better than an improved Jimmy Clausen from last year.