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Cosell: Cats a mirage

Fireball77

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ladypanther Grand Master

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As painful as it is, he's right on most points. Fortunately, we are in great shape record-wise and have time to improve. I do beleive it was the Giants who were in this situation about this time last year. We have the talent we just need to get firing on all cylinders.

Well said.

Nice find Fireball.

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He lives on the "if" principal. For example, if Green Bay's center had not hiked the ball over Rodgers' head, we would've never scored that TD.

But what he'll never admit is that if Marshall had held onto his INT, the Pack would've never tied the game.

You can look back on 75% of the games played in the NFL this season and do this. IF IF IF.

Just face it, teams win for many reasons but in the end, it's either a W or an L. We have 9 Ws. I'll take it.

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You all know what? Nine wins is great. Being tied for the third best record in the league is also a great thing. Being in a position to have a first-round bye is something many teams wish for. However, everything is not roses in Pantherland.

The only thing consistent about this team is the inconsistency that it displays. Whether it is the offense or the defense, neither plays on that even keel that Fox preaches about so much. One game for these units has more peaks and valleys than the Appalachian Trail. That is cause for concern, regardless of the number of wins.

Eventually, those things catch up with you. All you have to do is look at the Atlanta game. The offense and defense STUNK during the first 20-25 minutes of the game. They both then basically dominated for the next quarter. While the offense kept going, the defense STUNK during the fourth quarter.

The point is this . . . everyone is happy with nine wins. However, many see the inconsistencies in the team and realize that teams like the Giants, Titans and Steelers will absolutely take advantage of those inconsistencies and make the Panthers pay. You guys keep being happy with nine wins. I will, but I will not adamantly defend the team and its play based on those wins, especially when their play would completely undermine that position.

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Julius Peppers is not in the DeMarcus Ware or Dwight Freeney class as a dominant pass rusher who must be specifically accounted for in offensive game plans.

for such a dominant pass rusher I find it a bit strange that Freeney doesn't even lead his own team in sacks...oh but I understand it does look really pretty when does his little spin move...over and over and over...dumbass :mad:

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What he fails to account for is that our guys play physical tough ball and play as a team. When you analyze each play we are average or worse but often the lack of effectiveness in one area is made up by good play by another and the whole performance is better than the sum of it's parts.

So in other words, the Panthers are the NFL equivalent of a "butterface"? Not a beautiful face (wins are "ugly") but the body (of work, 9-3) is "hot"? :P

Good post P55. By the way the last place team in the NFC South has the best 3rd down conversion % in the South and the 4th best in the NFL.

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