Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

panthers D getting ready to run....a lot

rayzor

By rayzor,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
  • Author
Posted

4.25 is a very good time for that drill, in line with elite linebackers throughout the league. That's the most important drill to look at for LBs.
yeah, the 4.67 40 wasn't bad (pretty fly for a [big] white guy) but that shuttle made me smile, especially considering what i had seen about meek's piranha defense.

diggs has done better than what i ever thought he would, esp. when i thought landon johnson was a shoe in for the job. if connor can be better and faster....gives me goosebumps.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
scpanther22 Mentor

scpanther22

Posted
Posted

Our defensive philosophy has always been to contain and not give up the long ball. Sounds like Meeks is more of an attack style, (and that was illustrated in Indy). We should like that a lot more...

if by attack you mean never blitz...then yea meeks and fox do not like to blitz at all

Link to comment
Share on other sites
monstercat Newbie

monstercat

Posted
Posted

if by attack you mean never blitz...then yea meeks and fox do not like to blitz at all

Actually, Fox blitzes a lot more than Meeks ever has, but you will probably never convince some people of that.

This whole blitz argument irks me anyway. You don't have to blitz a lot to play good defense in the first place. I would much much much rather be able to get consistent pressure with the front four than rely on blitzing all the time. Most of the great blitzing teams, are 3-4 teams anyway.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mantal Newbie

mantal

Posted
Posted

Actually, Fox blitzes a lot more than Meeks ever has, but you will probably never convince some people of that.

This whole blitz argument irks me anyway. You don't have to blitz a lot to play good defense in the first place. I would much much much rather be able to get consistent pressure with the front four than rely on blitzing all the time. Most of the great blitzing teams, are 3-4 teams anyway.

If he'd said that Fox/Trgo didn't like to disguise their blitzes, he might have had something...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
  • Author
Posted

if by attack you mean never blitz...then yea meeks and fox do not like to blitz at all

tampa 2 you don't blitz but with meeks you kill anything that comes across that line.

front 4 needs to get that pressure for it to work, though.

a few adjustments and meeks in control with baker pushing them we should be able to get it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
  • Author
Posted

If he'd said that Fox/Trgo didn't like to disguise their blitzes, he might have had something...

true. they tried playing around with that in TC and there was a little talk about it but i guess they felt guilty(?) for trying to hide their true intentions?

not sure why they wouldn't want to disguise the blitzes.

i like the idea of constant pressure on the QB with the DL and decapitating anything crossing that line with the rest of the D.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mountainpantherfan Newbie

mountainpantherfan

Posted
Posted

tampa 2 you don't blitz but with meeks you kill anything that comes across that line.

front 4 needs to get that pressure for it to work, though.

a few adjustments and meeks in control with baker pushing them we should be able to get it.

I know a lot of fans are not thrilled with the possibility of having C. Johnson and Brayton as the starting DEs but IMO they both could end up being great in Meeks defense. If Peppers should end up staying that would just make it that much better.

The big problem is the pressure from the DTs. I have a lot of concerns on how Kemo is going to do in this new system. I like Kemo and have given him a lot of credit even when others haven't but I don't see this as being a great system for him. I guess the big question will be if Meeks is able/willing to adjust his system to utilize Kemo's strengths.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mantal Newbie

mantal

Posted
Posted

I know a lot of fans are not thrilled with the possibility of having C. Johnson and Brayton as the starting DEs but IMO they both could end up being great in Meeks defense. If Peppers should end up staying that would just make it that much better.

The big problem is the pressure from the DTs. I have a lot of concerns on how Kemo is going to do in this new system. I like Kemo and have given him a lot of credit even when others haven't but I don't see this as being a great system for him. I guess the big question will be if Meeks is able/willing to adjust his system to utilize Kemo's strengths.

Kemo did get more pressure this past year and it was a pleasant surprise. Still, he's mainly a run stuffer and I'm sure Meeks realizes he's going to have to take that into consideration...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
monstercat Newbie

monstercat

Posted
Posted

If he'd said that Fox/Trgo didn't like to disguise their blitzes, he might have had something...

Another thing, is that a lot of fans don't seem to consider all of those zone blitzes as blitzes at all. They're kind of right in a way though, because they're still rushing 4 guys most of the time, they're just coming from different places...it's still a blitz though. Ironically enough, using zone blitzes in a 4-3 alignment, is about the only way you can come close to mimicking what the Steelers do from their 3-4, which is what a lot of fans want the Panthers to run anyway.

Having said that, I'm tired of the zone blitzing myself. It's just not working for the Panthers like it did a few years ago. I'm more than willing to do the Tampa 2 thing, if that's what Fox and Meeks want...especially if they mix in a few different coverages like the Colts did last year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
  • Author
Posted

i don't see why not. meeks is an incredibly smart guy and considered a technician. he works with whoever he has. that was also one of the things he said he'd be doing .....building around the strengths/players we already have.

i think lewis will be good for it but i am anxious to see what we do in regards to working on the dline the rest of the offseason. i see a couple DT picks in the draft and one or two DT FAs as well. i see them most likely being in the mold of lewis than kemo, whatever acquisitions we make. time will tell.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mountainpantherfan Newbie

mountainpantherfan

Posted
Posted

i don't see why not. meeks is an incredibly smart guy and considered a technician. he works with whoever he has. that was also one of the things he said he'd be doing .....building around the strengths/players we already have.

i think lewis will be good for it but i am anxious to see what we do in regards to working on the dline the rest of the offseason. i see a couple DT picks in the draft and one or two DT FAs as well. i see them most likely being in the mold of lewis than kemo, whatever acquisitions we make. time will tell.

I actually like the idea of the Panthers drafting a player like Tyson Jackson out of LSU. He has the size and skill to play both DE and DT in a 4-3 although he is more suited for a 3-4. Should he slip into the 2nd round I think he could be a player that would be a great addition to the entire D-line.

And to keep this relavent to the thread, Jackson seems like a guy Meeks would want to draft to be apart of his defense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • JawnyBlaze
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By JawnyBlaze · Posted

      It wasn’t completely his fault, but outside of two throws and one or two scrambles he didn’t do much to help. His accuracy was all over the place, numerous passes that were placed poorly and didn’t give the receiver a good chance to catch the ball or do anything with it after. He also continues to display terrible pocket awareness. Even the sacks could have been avoided, they weren’t immediate like the pressure we got on Shough at times. Bryce just often has no feel for pressure and stands there waiting to get sacked after numerous seconds have passed. 
    • TylerDurden
      Possibly playoff affectng news

      By TylerDurden · Posted

      I really fuging hate this era in so many ways.  I look at those Adin Ross and Neon kids, and I just wonder why tf are they famous?  Why would anyone be desperate enough to gain THAT audience that they’d risk money, career, disciplinary action to go up there and associate with those fuging dweebs?  And back in my day, racist peers got their ass beat.  And not endorsing or approving bully culture, but checks and balances and all…  had those two been bullied, or at the very least humbled, they wouldn’t be famous and glorified for being the fuging idiots they are now.  It seriously pisses me off… they both have done and said multiple, openly racist stuff and major media keeps pushing them, talking about them, and propping them up… and then dummies like Puka who don’t need the platform or exposure lend their celebrity to them.  fuging idiot… and even the other streamers, I don’t get - Speed, Kai…  I don’t understand making nobodies famous at all, but there is at least entertainment value to some degree there, and I could see how young, impressionable kids would find them something to aspire to (sadly), or view as “cool.”  But Ross and Neon?  They’re just shitty, shitty nerds with big ass mouths. I’ve went back recently and watched some classics (in two very different eras and categories 😂)  like Robocop and Idiocracy.  And what I find fascinating is how both movies illustrate how stupid society became by showing what the citizenry is entertained by.  In both, society became anti-intellectual and the citizenry were entertained by lowest denominator, primal-type absurdity - poo like, “Ouch! My Balls!”  Or on Robocop, a guy is a watching a show where they are smashing cakes on ladies’ breasts and then a guy says a line as the camera zooms in like, “I’d buy that for a dollar!” and the audience thinks it’s hilarious.  That’s where I feel like we are now.  Like who watches that clip with Puka and thinks any of that poo is funny or cool?  If I was Puka, I’d honestly be wondering why tf I’m hanging out with these beta ass, racist, cretin ass weirdos.
    • CPF4LIFE
      If you can only fire ONE person before 2026....

      By CPF4LIFE · Posted

      7 wins this year and some of those against really good teams and yall think Canales might get fired? Lol Good luck getting a better coach in here if that happens.  
×
×
  • Create New...