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PantherPhann89

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our problem is coaching. Denver is winning games while we focus on developing Cam. They are actually going with a game plan thats working for them while ours is falling short week after week. Enough of pointing at players, I'm pointing at RR. Maybe the reason it took him so long to be a Head Coach is that he can't coach. If Fox can win in Denver with The Golden Calf of Bristol, we should be able to win with Cam. Granted I also think that Denver's defense is better than ours right now. Which still forces me to point at RR, a defensive coach from the Chargers and Dermontt, a defensive coach from the Eagles. And if I spelled his name wrong, o well, you get my point. This is fustrating as hell. We're good, actually good. We've probably got the best offense that I ever remember us having and we can't win.

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Wouldn't it be funny if the Broncos made the playoffs?

Yea, not really..

I think Brian Murphy (ST coach) and Warren Bellin (LB coach) have more to do with our current woes than Sean McDermott or even Ron Rivera.

Of course, Ron is highly satisfied with Brian, so what do I know..

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U guys are right...Something isn't right when week in and out, the same mistakes are being made and the same mindset seems to exist..

Here is the entire Panthers' season so far in a nutshell....The offense goes out and forces the game, which cause a lot of silly mistakes, to get points on the board early and frequently and the defense and special team allow the opposing team to score and score frequently putting the offense in a hole and forcing them to come out and make even more mistakes.

What I noticed with the Broncos last night is the fact that, for as bad of a thrower The Golden Calf of Bristol is and he isn't a good thrower, he never got picked off. What the Broncos have done is encourage the team to minimize Tim's weaknesses by doing more. The offensive team didn't do anything when the ball was on the Jets side for 53 minutes of the game. Then they make 95 yard drive allowing Tim to do what he does best while protecting him. And none of that would have been possible had the defense not done their part.

Teams win games, not just QBs.

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In other words, the Broncos have learned how to hide The Golden Calf of Bristol and the only time they expose him is when they use him as a HB... I want to see them win a playoff game with this formula before I go congratulating them.

The one time they played a legit playoff contender with this gameplan (Detriot) they were crushed. I will say that The Golden Calf of Bristol was impressive on the final drive, but once again, if the Broncos were playing a team that could actually score points the game would have been over long before that final drive.

Meanwhile, we're sacrificing wins right now in order to develop Cam to fullest of his potential, I can live with that. I guess we could put Cam out there and just let him run around with the ball like The Golden Calf of Bristol to steal a few wins against crappy teams if that would make you feel better?

I do agree with the penalties, that's inexcusable and the blame has to fall on the coaching staff.

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I Disagree with OP: Our -Cam- Game plan isn't our weakspot... its our only strength... Penalties and subpar Defense are our main detractors

Rivera is responsible for the mistakes and correcting them. Fox ball will win you some games... He proved that here.

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Wouldn't it be funny if the Broncos made the playoffs?

Yea, not really..

I think Brian Murphy (ST coach) and Warren Bellin (LB coach) have more to do with our current woes than Sean McDermott or even Ron Rivera.

Of course, Ron is highly satisfied with Brian, so what do I know..

Yes I would have to agree with that. Since we're in the midst of the season, I guess it would be foolish to make a change now. Much like it was foolish to cut Kasay as soon as steps in. He's the HC, it all falls on him.
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U guys are right...Something isn't right when week in and out, the same mistakes are being made and the same mindset seems to exist..

Here is the entire Panthers' season so far in a nutshell....The offense goes out and forces the game, which cause a lot of silly mistakes, to get points on the board early and frequently and the defense and special team allow the opposing team to score and score frequently putting the offense in a hole and forcing them to come out and make even more mistakes.

What I noticed with the Broncos last night is the fact that, for as bad of a thrower The Golden Calf of Bristol is and he isn't a good thrower, he never got picked off. What the Broncos have done is encourage the team to minimize Tim's weaknesses by doing more. The offensive team didn't do anything when the ball was on the Jets side for 53 minutes of the game. Then they make 95 yard drive allowing Tim to do what he does best while protecting him. And none of that would have been possible had the defense not done their part.

Teams win games, not just QBs.

That's 100! We have a much better QB with a weaker game plan. I they can design a gameplan in Denver for The Golden Calf of Bristol to win, what does it say about our coaching staff that can't design a game plan to win here with Cam?
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Technically, I guess it could but Literally I didn't call for Rivera to be fired. I'm simply questioning is coaching style and or decisions. But thanks for your input...

Sorry but its Friday and we are going into a weekend. Excuse me for continuing to have a little faith in my team and not trying to throw blame everywhere almost a week after the game.

If we go into Detroit and light it up this weekend, what is going to be your opinion then?

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