Year 2 of rebuilding going on, where are we better than last year except QB?

[DangerClose]

tight end for sure

[Davidson Deac II]

The offense is better across the board. Receivers are better, running backs are better (because Williams is healthy) and the oline is a little better. Defense is worse, mostly because of injuries.

[SZ James (banned)]

We might just end up with the same number of wins in our rebuilding year as our demolition year

[Dpantherman]

The offense and defense have basically switched places. Last season the Defense would do enough to keep us alive, then wear down. Anemic on offense.

This year the offense is much improved, got to control the turnovers, but it seems like even with those we still aren't in a position to win. The balance of the play calling was so baffling to me.

[TylerDurden]

We got better at CB simply by getting rid of Marshall. But, we're not seeing the benefits of that because our interior DL and 2 out of 3 LBs are horrible.

Nothing has really changed on offense... You could say RG is a little better, but not much.

So, other than QB? Nope.

[PaulSoleil]

Can anybody see a position on the team (besides quarterback) where we're better this year as opposed to worse or the same? I can't.

no where. maxed out on talent, in fact will be over the salary cap so will have to JETTISON some talent

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I really like how they aggressively went out and improved the TE position. I saw a lot of people here suggest we stick with Rosario and Barnidge and let them develop, an approach I strongly disagreed with.

The "stick with what you've got, let guys develop" mantra is something this FO is known for but it's nice to see them go out and completely flip the roster when guys aren't producing. It's something I'd like to see a LOT more of but I don't think we'll see a complete shift in philosophy until we get a new GM.

Not to mention we're completely f**ked cap space wise for the next couple of years. I doubt we see any noteable free agent signings for several years. We'll be lucky this offseason just to resign our own marginal free agents. Next year you'll see basically the same team with 6 new drafted players (only two early picks). Yippee.

[grateflday]

I dont count this as year 2 of the rebuilding. Last year was a throw away, gut the roster, keep the lame duck coach, and prep for a lockout year...... the season with the new HC and QB is the start of the rebuilding.

As far as positions that have improved --- QB, TE, DE

[R0CKnR0LLA]

You can gut a team and start a rebuild in the same year, especially when it's an uncapped season and you don't have to deal with the normal cap hits from cutting players. But honestly, to me, the whole "ohh it's just a rebuilding/throwaway season anyway" is really just an excuse for bad poorly managed teams. You should be doing everything possible to push for a playoff spot and a championship every single season.

I remember Atlanta in 2007 had one of the worst seasons I can remember in recent years. Their coach quit 13 games into the season. Pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong. They made the playoffs the next year. There are other similar quick turnarounds in recent history. There's really no excuse.

[TylerDurden]

Forgot, RnR is right, TE has been a huge upgrade. But, that's it, and the only reason it was upgraded is because we finally implemented an offense that used them.

[grateflday]

You can gut a team and start a rebuild in the same year, especially when it's an uncapped season and you don't have to deal with the normal cap hits from cutting players. But honestly, to me, the whole "ohh it's just a rebuilding/throwaway season anyway" is really just an excuse for bad poorly managed teams. You should be doing everything possible to push for a playoff spot and a championship every single season.

I remember Atlanta in 2007 had one of the worst seasons I can remember in recent years. Their coach quit 13 games into the season. Pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong. They made the playoffs the next year. There are other similar quick turnarounds in recent history. There's really no excuse.

I hear ya, that you can count the gutting of a team etc as rebuilding.....BUT in this case, last year it wasnt. You dont start rebuilding with a lame duck coach. My point is I just throw away last year, as nothing. Not saying though that I didnt want or think the Panthers could compete this season. I was even thinking they could tease use with a playoff run, had they beat MN and went on a small winning streak. At this point it is rebuilding, and its just getting started. Next season I will be back to expecting more again :cool:

I do want some damn wins!!!! Watching that second half today was painful.