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AKPantherFan

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Fox007 Grand Master

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You mean you can't see that's where the hold up is?

Julius Peppers is the hold up, but he isn't the reason he is the hold up.

He didn't tag himself.

You tried to say he was the reason when he asked you who's fault it was.

It's not Peppers fault the team put the tag on him.

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rayzor Grand Master

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it wasn't the panthers fault that he had a agent who didn't know what he was doing, that he tried tying their hands, that he opened his mouth the way he did about it all, that he hasn't signed the tender so that the panthers could actually work out a deal with a team that wants to get him. anyone who would want him isn't likely to do anything unless the panthers are involved. it is peppers that is keeping that from happening.

anyways, it sounds like he isn't so dead set on leaving anymore.

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Julius Peppers.

LOL

So it's his fault that they've put so much money wrapped up into just one player to the point where that player has basically been able to dictate our entire offseason?

Remind me, who decided to tag Pep? Did Pep want the tag or did the team do that?

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LOL

So it's his fault that they've put so much money wrapped up into just one player to the point where that player has basically been able to dictate our entire offseason?

Remind me, who decided to tag Pep? Did Pep want the tag or did the team do that?

Peppers could end it right now by either signing the tender and letting the Panthers negotiate a trade, or by signing a long term deal. It's not complicated.

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Fault-finding is pointless. The team drafted Pep and got his idiot "agent" with the deal, which put them in a bad spot. No one in the FO is a fortune teller afaik and no one could've seen this coming back when they signed him to his first extension. It's a difficult situation, but it will all work out and I don't think the Panthers will be "crippled" when it's all said and done, whatever happens.

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LOL

So it's his fault that they've put so much money wrapped up into just one player to the point where that player has basically been able to dictate our entire offseason?

hurney had a very good strategy with julius peppers, and that was he was going to sign him to a very large contract extension last offseason. unfortunately, he didn't anticipate that julius would turn down being the highest paid defender in football history.

when compared to hurney's biggest faux pas, the signing of morgan over witherspoon, the peppers situation doesn't even rank.

Remind me, who decided to tag Pep? Did Pep want the tag or did the team do that?

right we should just let him walk and hope we get a good compensatory draft pick in return so we have the cap space to overpay for igor olshanksy.

What pisses me off is that they aren't going after anyone at all, no matter how "washed up" they may be. I haven't been a Fox/Hurney fan for some time

you have no way of knowing what hurney is or isn't doing. Hurney's front office is notoriously secretive, and with the exception of Keyshawn Johnson, I can't think off the top of my head information ever leaking ahead of time.

Teams are overpaying for players now because A.) they don't feel the draft is very top heavy (which it's not) and is a depth draft (which it is) and B.) some of the more immature, wealthier owners seem to really think there's going to be an uncapped year in 2010.

Don't ever become GMs then. You realize that players that fit all of the requirements that people like Fiz have generally don't exist right?

reasonably priced, healthy, and not collecting social security? yeah what a ridiculous set of criteria to look for in a free agent.

Its about being proactive Vs. Reactive. The Panthers have a history of being re-active which is BAD for any club.

response 1: Yes, I remember how us being proactive really pushed us over the top in 2006.

response 2: you are wrong about every single thing you ever type.

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i mean i think it's summed up quite succinctly that the people who are angry that the panthers have been "quiet" this offseason (not including the jordan gross resigning of course which has conveniently gone unmentioned) can't name a single specific player they want or why they'd fit. All the Panthers need right now (that can be reasonably attained) is depth at Dline, Oline, and Secondary. These are not places to break the bank.

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another very interesting thing to keep in mind is that the Panthers have lost exactly one high calibre free agent drafted during the fox regime: Will Witherspoon. they haven't let anyone else walk. that's the only exception.

as long as there is a shred of hope that they can get peppers under contract, that will be their priority, as has been shown by the way they prioritize contracts.

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rayzor Grand Master

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I don't think there is any hope at all of getting Pep to stay.
why not?

moose said that pep has softened on the issue. losing him is as likely as him staying and if he stays he isn't going to screw up the panthers season. he isn't going to turn passive aggressive. that would hurt his chances of getting a big check somewhere else later.

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I see this as a reloading year. We still should make it in the Playoffs IMO because of talent but I doubt we will see the SB.

no one saw the cards going to the superbowl last year.

no one saw the giants going and actually beating the pats the year before.

we have as much of a chance as any of the other top teams.

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I know they don't have the money, and I'm not blinded by dislike, as you put it. Only weak-minded people are blinded by that kind of sh*t. I just don't agree with things they do alot of the time.

I was talking to a Skins fan yesterday, (I know, why?), super nice guy and very knowledgeable. I told him that a lot of fans are calling for Fox's head. He was like send him here, I'll take him in a split second, he's one of the best coaches out there. When you're too close to the situation sometimes you think with your heart instead of looking at it from a logical standpoint, never a good thing.

I learned a long time ago that people don't have the same thought processes and even though they may get to the same place in the end, they come at it from different progressions. Doesn't make one more right than the other, just different...

Viva la difference...

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I was talking to a Skins fan yesterday, (I know, why?), super nice guy and very knowledgeable. I told him that a lot of fans are calling for Fox's head. He was like send him here, I'll take him in a split second, he's one of the best coaches out there. When you're too close to the situation sometimes you think with your heart instead of looking at it from a logical standpoint, never a good thing.

I learned a long time ago that people don't have the same thought processes and even though they may get to the same place in the end, they come at it from different progressions. Doesn't make one more right than the other, just different...

Viva la difference...

From a purely logical standpoint, I don't agree with them on some of their choices.

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