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In need of an NBA pep talk


Dpantherman

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I think I made a thread last year about how hard it is to root for a team you no has no shot at winning anything. Kinda feel like a Browns fan (minus the fact that we haven't been around as long). This blows.

Am I a bad fan? Someone give me hope for the season. (PS this thread sounds awfully familiar)

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Not a Cats fan (though I do go to some games since I live in CLT), but I'll chime in. It should be fun to watch Kemba develop, see if DJ takes that next step, and watch Tyrus hopefully do the same. Also, this draft has so much talent at the top, so sucking this year could really pay off....oh, it's a shortened season too!

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You just have to have altered expectations. Until the Bobcats are able to draft a superstar, we won't be NBA contenders.

Just go to games, watch them on TV, enjoy having an NBA team. If they are competitive and fighting for a playoff spot, it is a win. Best we can really do. I think Cho will put us in position eventually to be a yearly playoff team. When that happens it will be fun to watch even if they don't have a real shot at the championship.

Look at it this way: It is stressful pulling for the Panthers because we know they are capable of winning the SB. With the Bobcats there is no pressure. If they make the playoffs, we had a great season. Makes it more fun and tolerable.

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I've been an NBA fan since the Charlotte Hornets began in 88. These days though, the shape of the league and all these "power" teams, I'm losing faith. Sorry I couldn't be more uplifting for ya.

Man I miss the Hornets like hell.

Not a Cats fan (though I do go to some games since I live in CLT)' date=' but I'll chime in. It should be fun to watch Kemba develop, see if DJ takes that next step, and watch Tyrus hopefully do the same. Also, this draft has so much talent at the top, so sucking this year could really pay off....oh, it's a shortened season too![/quote']

Good day to be a Laker fan eh?

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You just have to have altered expectations. Until the Bobcats are able to draft a superstar, we won't be NBA contenders.

Just go to games, watch them on TV, enjoy having an NBA team. If they are competitive and fighting for a playoff spot, it is a win. Best we can really do. I think Cho will put us in position eventually to be a yearly playoff team. When that happens it will be fun to watch even if they don't have a real shot at the championship.

Look at it this way: It is stressful pulling for the Panthers because we know they are capable of winning the SB. With the Bobcats there is no pressure. If they make the playoffs, we had a great season. Makes it more fun and tolerable.

Yea I adjusted my expectations right after our last playoff exit. I'm still watching and stuff. I'm just reminiscing a bit.

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Basically with the luxury tax not increasing by year for repeat offenders until year three of the new CBA there are going to be super teams for a few years. BUT, a team isn't going to pay the luxury tax under its future structure unless they feel they have a legit championship hope. So, the gap from the two seeds in each conference to the three seeds is going to be huge. The NBA is going to have two or so super teams in each conference with everyone else battling it out..it increasing parity but promotes super teams.

As a bobcats fan and a former hornets fan I find it easy to follow the cats because I am a fan of basketball in general. Also, not having expectations makes every win special (pathetic seeing that in print). But, like someone said previously, if there is a year to suck this is it. Shortened season plus a LOADED draft next summer. I do think that if we can DRAFT a star or two they will stay in Charlotte because of Michael Jordan. I doubt we will every get a superstar via trade or free agency.

If anything we have a young team that will probably be fun to watch because of silas' shoot first and fast paced up the floor offense. I'm excited to see Henderson's development at the two and kemba's transition to the pros. I'm also excited to see biyombo's development in the post.

Side note, if kemba shows signs of being ahead of DJ I'd expect him and Diaw to be shipped for picks in this upcoming draft. Just a thought.

Don't get down, we have something no other team in the league has to offer..Michael Jordan. His intense competitiveness gives me hope that he wants to prove to everyone he can run a winning franchise. I have full faith. BOOM BOOM CLAP! LETS GO CATS!

hopefully this homerism filled post might help life your cats spirit..

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Side note, if kemba shows signs of being ahead of DJ I'd expect him and Diaw to be shipped for picks in this upcoming draft. Just a thought.

I would love that.

I just get concerned about some of the players on our team (The talented ones, i.e. Tyrus and Kemba) when they see our team are continually be sellers. As fans, it's easier to sit back and wait a couple years for the rebuilding to occur. But as players, you have to get impatient.

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I actually fooled myself into thinking we would get a hard cap out of this lockout which would eventually create some parity in the NBA, but that really wasn't what the lockout was about, it was just a money grab by the owners. They added 50 cents to the luxury tax... big deal.

It is tough to get excited about a Bobcats season when you realize that they will have to get very lucky to have any shot at a championship.

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I would love that.

I just get concerned about some of the players on our team (The talented ones, i.e. Tyrus and Kemba) when they see our team are continually be sellers. As fans, it's easier to sit back and wait a couple years for the rebuilding to occur. But as players, you have to get impatient.

Yeah I agree.

A team next year that looks like this might be interesting (it would be because Kemba has shown very good promise and henderson is a viable 2 in the NBA). If the cats get two first in the upcoming draft you could add another rookie in there too.

PG-Kemba

SG-Henderson

SF-Barnes

PF-Tyrus

C-Kwame

I chose barnes because, most likely with the current roster, the cats are going to have a top 6 pick. I see Drummond, Davis, Lamb (UCONN) all possibly going before Barnes, who is exactly what the cats need..a young stud at SF. Obviously he would have to fall to picks 4-6 which isn't a guarantee..but we should at least get someone to be a cornerstone at his position.

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