Karlos Dansby On Tim Tebow

[Porn Shop Clerk]

showboating for jesus!

[Matthias]

If any of you have time to listen, Stephen A Smith talks about The Golden Calf of Bristol and how people view him.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7347390

[Carolina Husker]

Actually that sounds like what I imagine Hell would be like if it existed.

[rodeo]

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men."

"When thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

[g5jamz]

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men."

"When thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

Ok...how is he a hypocrite.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

praying for show = hypocrisy

[g5jamz]

praying for show = hypocrisy

How in the world is that hypocrisy?

It's speaking of people that like to hear themselves talk getting in front of people, yet leading lives of sin and attempting to "perform" with their open prayers. Bad examples. Hypocrites. Etc.

[Delhomeboy]

praying for show = hypocrisy

There is nothing to indicate that he's praying for show. That's the point. To be a hypocrite you have to do more than pray in public. It seems like he honestly means it. By that logic, anyone who says the blessing in a restaurant before eating, or any player that kneels after a touchdown is a hypocrite.

It's a heart issue. If you pray in public with loud and elegant words but don't pray a wit in private, that's hypocrisy. If you pray in public but don't back up your words with goodness and kindness to your fellow man, that's hypocrisy. Neither of these things describe The Golden Calf of Bristol at this juncture. But praying in public does not automatically mean you are praying for show.

[ladypanther]

Delhomeboy...not wanting this to get personal. Just my opinion as everything else is here.

[g5jamz]

[Delhomeboy]

The Golden Calf of Bristol's an easy target for atheists and anyone that's fervent anti-christian. In their own minds, they whip out the "you better pray in private" crap rhetoric without understanding the full context in which that statement was made.

As I started...those people are enjoying the bliss and love throwing stones.

I don't know if it's that vehement or not, but I will say this situation indicates just how little we've progressed and what our national zietgeist is when it comes to beliefs and expressions of beliefs.

My boss is not a The Golden Calf of Bristol fan and he says the same things others are saying. if he would just shut up and do it at home...what I don't understand is what the big deal is, and I think, for my boss at least, it comes from bitterness and insecurity. Somewhere in his life he was burnt by religion, of any sort, and doesn't want to see it come up in a public forum, because it's uncomfortable at best and infuriating at worst.

I'm no psychologist, but I honestly wonder if that's what's going on. Why are people so mad about his praying in public and sharing his faith? I mean, what does it really matter? It just seems to indicate some level of insecurity and disillusionment against religion/Christianity/whatever.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

how many times did Jesus pray in public?

three.

his baptism, the last supper, and on the cross. even his last prayer before his arrest and crucifixion he did so in private

Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray." (Matthew 26:36)

this thread just shows how many people don't get it

[Porn Shop Clerk]

lol when "athiests and fervent anti-christians" know more about the bible than you do, something is dangerously wrong

[Delhomeboy]

how many times did Jesus pray in public?

three.

his baptism, the last supper, and on the cross. even his last prayer before his arrest and crucifixion he did so in private

this thread just shows how many people don't get it

Again, it's a heart issue. If you say the words just to get attention, fine, yes, I completely agree, it's hypocrisy. But if you are actually praying to God, then it does not matter if it's in public or private.

I mean, the fact that Jesus prayed in public at all indicates this, doesn't it? I mean, Jesus wouldn't do something even once if it compromised the veracity of his actions.

On a side note, I think he prayed in public at the feeding of the four thousand and the five thousand, if I remember correctly. It's a bit of a throwaway line, but I remember the verse saying he "broke the bread and gave thanks" or something along those lines.