Karlos Dansby On Tim Tebow

[g5jamz]

how many times did Jesus pray in public?

three.

his baptism, the last supper, and on the cross. even his last prayer before his arrest and crucifixion he did so in private

this thread just shows how many people don't get it

Still going?

Did he or did he not give thanks, in public, in full view, when he was in front of the 5,000 loaves/fishes?

Was he a private person? Absolutely. Did he choose to do a lot of praying in private? Absolutely. But your statement is yet another outright lie in an attempt of I don't know what.

There are other instances where he publically gives thanks to his Father, but I'm ending this because you're not going to be convinced. You're simply just another person attempting to browbeat christians with selected scripture in order to prop up yourself and draw a following.

It's not constructive.

[g5jamz]

lol when "athiests and fervent anti-christians" know more about the bible than you do, something is dangerously wrong

Try again...or better yet. Don't.

[Matthias]

So are we saying that there should be some kind of prayer booth on the sidelines for Tim to go into? Or are we forgetting that many players pray on the sidelines, get on one knee to thank God, and even our own Steve Smith point two fingers up in the air many times during the game giving thanks to God. How many of you would hop on Smitty for praying on the sidelines?

Now speaking for myself, I don't take any comments about Christianity personally or anything like that, but it's a little hypocritical to attack what The Golden Calf of Bristol does, and ignore everyone else that prays or give thanks like The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[g5jamz]

The Golden Calf of Bristol made his mistake with people when he made a prolife commercial.

For that he can never be forgiven (with respect to his beliefs...not his play).

Like you said Matthias...how many kneel/pray sessions do you see in the middle of the field after each NFL game. How many times do you see a player point to the sky in reverence to their God? It's just ignorance...plain and simple. Is everyone that prays publically saints? No. They're human.

[g5jamz]

and besides...should christians attempt to be Christ-like? Absolutely. But to try to measure humans against what christians believe to be God Incarnate is ignorant. No christian should claim to be perfect. You, atheists and fervent anti-christians, are trying to assert that they ARE attempting to be and SHOULD be just like Jesus. Guess what...the christian belief is that no one is nor can ever be.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

christians are the furthest thing from christ-like as this thread has willfully displayed

[Delhomeboy]

christians are the furthest thing from christ-like as this thread has willfully displayed

Sigh...that's unfair, and uncalled for, and unevidenced--I don't even know if that's a word.

[g5jamz]

christians are the furthest thing from christ-like as this thread has willfully displayed

Care to explain? Further than what/who.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3–5)

"Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: `These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.'" (Matthew 15:6–8)

"No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. (Luke 16:13–14)

[Matthias]

It is also written that anyone who is ashamed of Jesus and His teachings, then Jesus will also be ashamed of them in the presence of His Father. The truth is, this is The Golden Calf of Bristol. His faith is who he is, it's not a tradition or a thing he does on sunday. If a reporter wants to ask a question about what drives him, The Golden Calf of Bristol naturally tells that reporter who he is. If people can't stand that about him, the only way to officially make sure it doesn't happen is to stop talking to him.

[Panthro]

[Delhomeboy]

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3–5)

"Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: `These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.'" (Matthew 15:6–8)

"No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. (Luke 16:13–14)

Okay, now I'm just confused. Where has anybody judged anybody else for not believing in God in this thread? (first verse)

When has anybody not honored God with their heart in this thread?

When has anybody indicated in the slightest that they're putting money about God in this thread?

And, to bring the convo on point, when has The Golden Calf of Bristol done any of these things? Maybe he has, but WE DON'T KNOW THAT. We don't know him. You don't, I don't. All we have is evidence, and all evidence points to the fact that he has done none of these things. Certainly none of US have done these things, especially in this thread.

So confused...

[Bronn]

1. My problems with The Golden Calf of Bristol are mainly on the field and in the media.

2. He interjects his religion in interviews where it isn't really warranted, and by doing so, he openly invites criticism by those who do not share his belief.

3. Sure he may, like everyone, do plenty of good deeds, but he also gets paid a disproportionate amount of monetary compensation for being an entertainer, while many people in this country are unemployed. He should consider this and how it conflicts with the morals he openly discusses.

Good on the guy for doing the good deeds he does.

However, doing them in the name of a savior that obviously has no ear to all the people of the world is a little disgusting. At least, to me.

I'm sure these deeds are also done for tax purposes, and are recommended by financial advisers and planners. This basically dilutes their moral value and underhandedly disguises them as better deeds than they may well be.

[TheRealDeal]

So everyone should praise Cam for helping out kids with some TV cameras around but we should all hate The Golden Calf of Bristol because he does good deeds but also believes in Jesus and isn't cowardly enough to hide his beliefs?