Fox & TEs

[raleigh-panther]

In 11 years, he could never cover a TE.

I see it continues.

[beastson]

Yea.....

[R0CKnR0LLA]

nobody has been able to stop the pats TEs, just sayin

[PhillyB]

lol that's not true at all.

also the tight end position is evolving and defenses will need a few years of drafting to catch up to stopping the jimmy graham archetype that's taking over the league. and remember the pats have the best receiving tight ends in the league.

[raleigh-panther]

lol that's not true at all.

also the tight end position is evolving and defenses will need a few years of drafting to catch up to stopping the jimmy graham archetype that's taking over the league. and remember the pats have the best receiving tight ends in the league.

C'mon on man...don't use that excuse for Fox.

For 10 years as a season ticket holder I have personally watched every mediocre to great TE run through every defense Fox put on the field.

[jayflip]

"What the sh*t?! That tackle just ran a route and caught a pass... Can they do that? Where the fug is my gum?"

--John Fox on Tight Ends.

[raleigh-panther]

i see you were at the stadium with me watching every TE in the league run rampant.

When FF started, all a person had to do was pick up the TE playing against the Panthers.

[PhillyB]

C'mon on man...don't use that excuse for Fox.

For 10 years as a season ticket holder I have personally watched every mediocre to great TE run through every defense Fox put on the field.

Cute anecdotal generalization but half the years fox was here we fielded a top fifteen defense. Once Meeks arrived and switched to a Tampa Two where tight ends could slip into holes in the zone we became much more prone to being beaten there. The last couple of years of Fox's tenure were the most frustrating as a whole, so perhaps those years stand out more in your mind.

[raleigh-panther]

It still does not change the fact no matter what defense he ran, TEs ran wild.

See the scoreboard?

[jayflip]

The Panthers have been historically bad at covering TEs, not just the last two years. The last two years were the worst, but as long as I can remember under Foxball, the cats simply had no answers for TEs.

[raleigh-panther]

The reason is poor safety play.

[raleigh-panther]

Haha. I still have nightmares of Alge Crumpler...

Yeah and now it's Graham.

Until they draft better safeties to undo what Fox did, hard time covering them.

Fox never understood how to cover TEs or use them offense.

Look at Denver. It's pathetic.

[PhillyB]

The Panthers have been historically bad at covering TEs, not just the last two years. The last two years were the worst, but as long as I can remember under Foxball, the cats simply had no answers for TEs.

Historically we got a ton of quick pressure and had an elite secondary. Often offenses were forced into quick checkdowns to tight ends as wide receivers simply didn't have time to get open.

[raleigh-panther]

You really believe that don't you.

Guess a lot of those checkdowns resulted in TDs.

No fight with you PhillyB. Too happy over the Saints and The Golden Calf of Bristol beat down.

We can agree to disagree.