sign the tender?

[rayzor]

in a dream world yes. Evidently peppers does not buy into your philosophy. If peppers "blocks" a trade he stands to lose much more that Lucas. If it is clear to the NFL that he wants to go to a contender and will settle for nothing less, the competition narrows and the offers shrink considerably because this information just gave them all another chip in the game.

all peppers needs to do is talk to his old buddy jenks. he went to a team that he was happy with. contrary to what you have already long ago mad up your mind about because you are so pissed that your favorite player doesn't want to be on your favorite team which has made you angry at everyone, the world isn't coming to an end and there is a much bigger chance that everything will work out for the good of all interested parties rather than not. the chances are minuscule that things will blow up in everyone's faces.

i'm getting tired of this running around with you on this as i'm sure that many others are. this is your second effort to see who is in agreement with you (talking about the thread you started to see if others believed that hurney made a mistake in tagging peppers) and you are going to find out the truth again, that most people simply just don't buy into your beliefs about the situation.

you are hurt and emotional about this. everyone can see that. just move on. until you do you are just going to be miserable (which may be what you are comfortable with). just let it go. i know i am and i won't be responding to anymore comments that you make regarding the peppers situation. it's gotten old and tired.

[Lone Buc Fan]

Carolina is basically the one trying to pull the power on Peppers fate. Peppers had it listed to the spots he'd be willing to be traded to and the Panthers front office got a bit upset.

I'd probablly wait past OTAs and then sign the tender right at the last minute. Might aswell cash in and get out. Peppers could retire after making his 17kk salary this season if Carolina tried to force him to stay next season.

I say if I was Julius, don't sign until the last second to collect the money your paid for... screw all the off-season workouts and pre-season games.

[carolinarolls]

all peppers needs to do is talk to his old buddy jenks. he went to a team that he was happy with. contrary to what you have already long ago mad up your mind about because you are so pissed that your favorite player doesn't want to be on your favorite team which has made you angry at everyone, the world isn't coming to an end and there is a much bigger chance that everything will work out for the good of all interested parties rather than not. the chances are minuscule that things will blow up in everyone's faces.

i'm getting tired of this running around with you on this as i'm sure that many others are. this is your second effort to see who is in agreement with you (talking about the thread you started to see if others believed that hurney made a mistake in tagging peppers) and you are going to find out the truth again, that most people simply just don't buy into your beliefs about the situation.

you are hurt and emotional about this. everyone can see that. just move on. until you do you are just going to be miserable (which may be what you are comfortable with). just let it go. i know i am and i won't be responding to anymore comments that you make regarding the peppers situation. it's gotten old and tired.

dewd I'm not hurt or emotional. I am glad to see him go. I just wish he was already gone and we were planning some legit moves instead of sitting around with our thumb in our rectum watching Western Michigan pro-days.

The problem I have is that I like the guy and am sick of him getting flamed for doing something very smart.

BTW, nobody has said yes they would sign or would have already signed without qualifying it somehow.

[carolinarolls]

Carolina is basically the one trying to pull the power on Peppers fate. Peppers had it listed to the spots he'd be willing to be traded to and the Panthers front office got a bit upset.

I'd probablly wait past OTAs and then sign the tender right at the last minute. Might aswell cash in and get out. Peppers could retire after making his 17kk salary this season if Carolina tried to force him to stay next season.

I say if I was Julius, don't sign until the last second to collect the money your paid for... screw all the off-season workouts and pre-season games.

not signing to miss a few workouts is the dumbest reason I have heard yet but it is another reason.

[2jakefansinva]

Carolina is basically the one trying to pull the power on Peppers fate. Peppers had it listed to the spots he'd be willing to be traded to and the Panthers front office got a bit upset.

I'd probablly wait past OTAs and then sign the tender right at the last minute. Might aswell cash in and get out. Peppers could retire after making his 17kk salary this season if Carolina tried to force him to stay next season.

I say if I was Julius, don't sign until the last second to collect the money your paid for... screw all the off-season workouts and pre-season games.

Go away.

[Udogg]

Carolina is basically the one trying to pull the power on Peppers fate. Peppers had it listed to the spots he'd be willing to be traded to and the Panthers front office got a bit upset.

I'd probablly wait past OTAs and then sign the tender right at the last minute. Might aswell cash in and get out. Peppers could retire after making his 17kk salary this season if Carolina tried to force him to stay next season.

I say if I was Julius, don't sign until the last second to collect the money your paid for... screw all the off-season workouts and pre-season games.

The worst he looks the worst his chances are getting the team he wants. The better he looks, the better his chances. There is only downside about him not playing well. If it was just money he could have gotten huge signing bonus in the contract we offered him along with a huge portion guaranteed.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

not signing to miss a few workouts is the dumbest reason I have heard yet but it is another reason.

Exactly. Players demanding trades or new contracts miss those things all the time. He can easily skip them even if he does sign. It's not a big deal.

[unicar15]

Signed it as soon as they gave it to me...16 mil for a signature on the dotted line?? Yes please...Not to mention it would just be a moron in a suit trying to gauge offers. It would actually be experience professionals handling this trade.

[carolinarolls]

Signed it as soon as they gave it to me...16 mil for a signature on the dotted line?? Yes please...Not to mention it would just be a moron in a suit trying to gauge offers. It would actually be experience professionals handling this trade.

we have one....the reasoning does not allude to considerable mitigation of the facts but hey at least unicar is confident.

[Lone Buc Fan]

He can be fined being under contract if he misses OTAs... Where if he doesn't sign, he can avoid the fines for one thing and I believe the original question was if you were Julius Peppers, would you sign today?

[carolinarolls]

unicar's logic fails in a couple spots, but I do admire his enthusiasm.

the money

-sure 16.6 million is considerable scratch but that is guaranteed whether he signed a month ago or after OTA's

the agent vs. GM

-yes Carey is inexperienced per say but he has his client in a bulletproof position with a guaranteed fallback plan to the tune of a 4+ million dollar raise, whereas Hurney has a track record of making suspect decisions with starters in his past...Moose, Witherspoon, Draft, Morgan, Foster, etc.

[Kurb]

Your 20/20 hindsight with personnel moves is amazing.

Sign the tag: when you get the trade you want or the bluff has been called and it's time to play a year for the Panthers.

What people can't or won't get into with you, is the logic of signing a trade BEFORE you get the deal to the place of your choice. I/nor anyone outside the situation can speculate on the relationship between The Panthers FO and Julius Peppers right now. Jarred Allen obviously had a level of trust with the Chiefs last season that if he signed his tender they would get him moved and not force him to stay. This could be because he had a better market or a simple trust issue. Such is unable to be discussed because very few people actually know.

[Kevin Greene]

Well since I'm a spoiled little sh!t I won't sign the the tender and will keep an entire organization hostage an entire off season because I'm going to hold my breath and stomp my feet until I get traded to my 4 favorite teams and get payed mammoth money. So there.

So no, I won't sign.

[monstercat]

I hate to defend Unicar, but how can you fault the guy's logic, when the question was "would you sign the tender"?