More dwill contract rant

[CRA]

When you promote team loyalty, these are the types of things that happen. Look at Gross and Davis restructuring to stay with the Panthers. I know Davis didn't have a lot of options, but they went out of their way to make the cap work for us. Again, this is why I love our team and love the players we bring in

have you looked at our holes and lack of depth?

Paying guys you shouldn't also hurts your ability to be a consistantly competitive team. (note that we comically have never won back to back).

[Udogg]

We are still a running team. Our most lopsided victories came when we ran the ball. Cam passing is great and all, but our bread is still buttered on the running game. Deangelo Williams is a good to great RB. Jstew is a good to great back. That as of last year was our main strength. The second we trade Deangelo, if Jstew is hurt our strength is now a weakness. We want to put all the pressure on our passing game? We want Cam picking up the slack in the running game? With an effective passing game and a effective running game we can't be stopped. I like that instead of a possible defensive player who may or not be the answer.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

have you looked at our holes and lack of depth?

Paying guys you shouldn't also hurts your ability to be a consistantly competitive team. (note that we comically have never won back to back).

We came into the league during an era of parity and never really had a franchise quarterback. That's why we never had back to back winning seasons. Not a couple overpaid players.

[Panthro]

Contract given to Dwill 5Y- $43M

Contact given to Jonathan Joseph - 5Y - $48M

Contact given to Brandon Carr - 5Y - $50M

Contract given to Nnamdi 5Y - $60M

Cortland Finnegan - 5Y - $50M

Carlos Rogers - both of his contracts

[stirs]

Contract given to Dwill 5Y- $43M

Contact given to Jonathan Joseph - 5Y - $48M

Contact given to Brandon Carr - 5Y - $50M

Contract given to Nnamdi 5Y - $60M

Cortland Finnegan - 5Y - $50M

Carlos Rogers - both of his contracts

Contract Stewart will command next season ????

[jarhead]

Why call it DWill hate why not Hurney hate.If we would quit dumpster diving for an OL we could have Stew and dwill running for 1000 each.Thats what pisses me off.

[CRA]

We came into the league during an era of parity and never really had a franchise quarterback. That's why we never had back to back winning seasons. Not a couple overpaid players.

yeah, then why have so many teams w/o a Tom Brady achieved that feat during the time we have been in this league.

Depth in Carolina has really gotten bad in recent years....and recent years under Hurney is when we have really started rewarding guys for what they have done.

[CRA]

Why call it DWill hate why not Hurney hate.If we would quit dumpster diving for an OL we could have Stew and dwill running for 1000 each.Thats what pisses me off.

and that still is running up hill...rules make it smarter to take advantage of defenses defending the pass (not run). Which means you need even better talent on D than in the past. In the past you could cover up holes on defense being physical.

[Marguide]

a horrible plan would be drafting a dual threat player at QB and unique matchup nightmare the league has never seen......and then not running him.

It sure wasn't horrible this year for us. You want Cam to take a step backwards then shrinking his role in our run game will surely do it.

Cam is part of our run game....not wanting him to be is just silly. Silly at this stage of his career.

Cam should remain part of our running game. He should not get another 12 to 14 carries a game to spell Stewart. We drafted the guy to be our QB for the next 15 years, not to be our #2 RB.

Don't like DWill's price? Fine, then add another RB that is cheaper. Don't even consider using Newton to pick up the slack. That is irresponsible.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

So last offseason, our big moves are Olsen, Shockey, Newton and re-signing Johnson, Kalil, Beason and Williams and the only thing we are going to bring up over and over again is how we should have given Williams money to someone else. Even though we ended up completely fixing one side of the ball?

[CRA]

I think it is funny all of the people that say "we could use the money elsewhere", but then in another thread say over and over "we dont sign free agents"...

Are they saying that if we didnt spend that money on Deangelo that we would have spent it on a FA?

I find that pretty unlikely. If we had not signed Deangelo, we would still have the same team we have now, but we would just have one less elite player.

(or we would be paying Wharton 7 million dollars this year...)

We don't sign Mario Williams type FAs. Doesn't mean we couldn't of signed some very good players on D w/ that money.

like I said, depth in Carolina is non-existant. It has cost us repeatedly in recent years. We have to depend on rookies and guys off the street for depth.

[CRA]

So last offseason, our big moves are Olsen, Shockey, Newton and re-signing Johnson, Kalil, Beason and Williams and the only thing we are going to bring up over and over again is how we should have given Williams money to someone else. Even though we ended up completely fixing one side of the ball?

The offense was fixed by drafting Cam and hiring Chud. Getting away from Foxball.

[jtnc]

That money could have went to a decent CB and a good DT.

[Marguide]

That money could have went to a decent CB and a good DT.

Why don't you give us some names of guys fitting your criteria that we could get for what we paid DWill.