Yasinkas Has Us Taking Kuechly

[panthers55]

Not true, for some examples i gave luke the advantage, like when i compared beason's sacks in 2009 to 3 seasons of bc football luke played which was at least twice as many games and his sack total still didn't add up to beason's

Comparing pro stats in a 16 game season to college stats makes no sense at all. Comparing stats from college to college does when they played the same system. So why not put them out there. Oh because Beason doesn't have anything close to Kuechly. Want to compare combine measurables?? Again Beason lags.

Drop the argument. You have no leg to stand on and it makes no sense to compare the 2 anyway.

[frash.exe]

No one is projecting his NFL stats.... only comparing to others players when they were coming out of school

Lol we've had like 400 threads debating this and you think not at any point did someone project his career based on college stats making an argument either way

Who's reaching now

[PhillyB]

If neither cox nor coples are still on the board when we pick i will be perfectly content with keuchly.

[panthers55]

Projecting luke's stats in the nfl is also built upon a bunch of hypotheticals

So really you're only in favor of dismissing hypotheticals as long as they don't favor your argument

Exactly so we compare what each did in college. So when we compare what each did in college to their potential we see that Kuechly compares very favorably. Will he be better than Beason? Only time will tell.

[CRA]

Beason's smaller and has played bigger, stronger, faster, smarter and tougher competition

Again, they both played in the ACC. Luke was better. That isn't a knock on Beason

[panthers55]

That is a real stupid Opinion because by the same reasoning Zac Brown was the best LB prospect going into the Combine now Kuechly rose to the top. Does that mean he's not the best LB prospect because he wasn't at the start of this either.

Kuechly was always the best linebacker in just about every draft. If they broke it down between 4-3 outside linebackers then Brown could be there but Kuechly can play all the positions where as Brown can't.

[panthers55]

This is a rehash of last week though. Nice to see that everyone has the same opinion and 500 posts has changed very little. Somehow I think 500 more won't do anything more so I will leave it at that.

[koolkatluke]

Kuechly was always the best linebacker in just about every draft. If they broke it down between 4-3 outside linebackers then Brown could be there but Kuechly can play all the positions where as Brown can't.

No Kuechly was the best ILB but Zac Brown was the best overall before the Combine. Then Kuechly put up good # at the Combine and Became the best overall.

The point still remains just because a player wasn't consider the best at his position from the start of the draft Process doesn't mean he's not the best Prospect.

[calipanther]

This is one of the better debated topics I've seen in a while.

I think there is a lot of context taken into consideration with whole draft. People tend to speculate a lot of hypotheticals. Beason Willis and kuechly have been mentioned as comparisons in this thread a lot. I think they play different games all together. I think first off kuechly projects best to SLB and he looks like Romanowski the most to me. Excellent in coverage. Really good hand fighter. Exceptional tackler. Also went to BC. Hmmmm.

The point is I think linebacker is a bigger need than originally speculated by most on this board and front office knows this. I really think kuechly would be a very safe pick. A lot of people have said that it's a bad idea because it would be three first on a linebacker in 7 years. That's what people in economics call sunk cost. You don't make decisions based on that. People also say he would be a reach at 9. Not according to bill Walsh. Just saying.

[frash.exe]

Exactly so we compare what each did in college. So when we compare what each did in college to their potential we see that Kuechly compares very favorably. Will he be better than Beason? Only time will tell.

i'm not willing to spend the 9th overall pick on a prospect where "only time will tell" if he'll be our best linebacker on the team

[CRA]

That is a real stupid Opinion because by the same reasoning Zac Brown was the best LB prospect going into the Combine now Kuechly rose to the top. Does that mean he's not the best LB prospect because he wasn't at the start of this either.

Luke has always been viewed as best all around LB. as 55 said, maybe an arguement could be made If you limited it just OLB. Luke is like a Beason or Willis of prior drafts in they are good enough to play multiple roles as a LB and aren't limited as a one trick pony.

But there isn't a head and shoulder best DT. Which was the claim. Deep class. If people are willing to put Poe temp in the drivers seat that should be a good indication of no one standing out

[Panthro]

No one is projecting his NFL stats.... only comparing to others players when they were coming out of school

But only when the comparisons back up your argument.

[ClarkCam]

[Panthro]

This is a rehash of last week though. Nice to see that everyone has the same opinion and 500 posts has changed very little. Somehow I think 500 more won't do anything more so I will leave it at that.

Bet you wont